# If you lost all your assets and had to start over how would you go about it?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 12, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093 "2021-03-12T22:37:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/62 "2021-03-16T20:46:30Z")

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LOL  
/char

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**Author:** ![Theodarum](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/theodarum/32/479608_2.png) [@Theodarum](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Theodarum)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/63 "2021-03-17T08:30:06Z")

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I’d quit for sure. Why? Are you goon?

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**Author:** ![Apu\_Chipri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apu_chipri/32/253668_2.png) [@Apu\_Chipri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apu_Chipri)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/64 "2021-03-17T11:26:52Z")

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I would obv start by buying a mindstorm experience pack tm !

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/65 "2021-04-10T11:51:54Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Frankly if my assets had been wiped because a dev had decided the best way to correct their previous mistakes was to change the game mechanics in order to trash trillions of assets essentially without warning, the way I would start over would be to download a better game from a more honest developer.

Agreed 100%. In fact I’ve been considering doing that more and more with each new change CCP does to the game.

Main reasons:  
Incompetent Dev’s quickly implementing bad programing with no QA testing.  
Uncalled for bad ideas and unnecessary changes being made to the game.  
Each game update adding more bugs making gameplay more unstable.  
Very little bug fixes, fixed bugs are still present, just not as severe as before.  
Removal of sandbox and player choice, Developer forcing gameplay direction.  
No career specialization, all game aspects being simplified for instant gratification.  
Company doubletalk smokescreen to hide P2W cash grab mentality.

Could easily add more reasons but I think I’ve made my point.

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**Author:** ![Kestrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kestrix/32/420684_2.png) [@Kestrix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kestrix)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/66 "2021-04-10T12:16:18Z")

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I’d start again running level 4 missions with a side line of PI to provide an income then I’d start working towards what ever it was that I wanted to do in eve.

Leave your level 4 mission ships and everything you use for PI in NPC stations and you will always be able to fall back on it during hard times.

Kestrix

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/67 "2021-04-10T14:46:15Z")

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> [@Kestrix](#):
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> Leave your level 4 mission ships and everything you use for PI in NPC stations and you will always be able to fall back on it during hard times.

CCP laughs in pochven.

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**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/68 "2021-04-10T19:12:06Z")

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@EveJunkie I would make Jita my home station and put a clone in Hek and another one in Amarr space. Then I’d get lots of isk and buy T2 and T3 ships and fit them with only T2 Modules.  
I would avoid amassing stuff and would keep things only in the afore mentioned locations. I would only concentrate on PvP and disregard all the rest. I’d go -10 in security rating and hunt other players, preferably noobs who’d venture below 0.6

Fly Safe  
o7

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**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/69 "2021-04-10T19:28:43Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Company doubletalk smokescreen to hide P2W cash grab mentality.

This is the worst part about CCP. They’re pretty scummy now-a-days.

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**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/70 "2021-04-11T19:40:46Z")

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> [@Mr\_Epeen](#):
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> Always mom. As if they grew up in fatherless homes so it doesn’t occur to them to say “Dad’s AMEX”

My dad never had much money for us kids and we didn’t ask him for much of anything because we valued our lives so of course it was mom who’d get ganged upon for treats.

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**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/71 "2021-04-11T19:45:09Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Anyway, much creds to you for sticking it out…

Not really. There’s a line between the game fostering a dishonorable environment if that’s what players generate and a dishonorable developer. Be more cred in not coming back on principle when tempted.

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**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/72 "2021-04-11T19:54:12Z")

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> [@Spruillo](#):
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> Not really. There’s a line between the game fostering a dishonorable environment if that’s what players generate and a dishonorable developer. Be more cred in not coming back on principle when tempted

Amen to ^^ that ^^

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**Author:** ![Gi\_Scar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gi_scar/32/248812_2.png) [@Gi\_Scar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gi_Scar)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/73 "2021-04-19T18:33:19Z")

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The easiest way fo have isk with 0 assest and 0 isk is Project Discovery.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/74 "2021-04-19T18:35:49Z")

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I’m thinking of returning for a bit so I am watching this thread for good ideas.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/75 "2021-04-19T20:46:43Z")

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> [@Gi\_Scar](#):
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> The easiest way fo have isk with 0 assest and 0 isk is Project Discovery.

This.

I would do Project Discovery until I can buy a t1 fit exploration frigate, then explore until I can buy a t2 fit exploration frigate, then explore some more to pay for a couple Epithals, command centers and planet setups.

Once I’ve got all that I have pretty much the ISK income I have now.

Any suggestions where to go next? 😋

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**Author:** ![Fredricko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fredricko/32/268464_2.png) [@Fredricko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fredricko)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/76 "2021-04-19T21:10:16Z")

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It may already have been mentioned, but you could do worse that continue in the abyssals.

T5 running with an Ishtar or gila will meet you 270m per hour once you are up to speed. T6 in a cruiser can be 600m+ per hour.

You wont get this overnight, but working up the seed money in the lower tiers will give you the experience you need to do this.

Investment will be around 5 to 6 bil all in (for a t6 fit with implant) , and a lvl 5 skillset for the ship you fly, but once you are set, its probably the most fun pve this game has to offer imo.

Good luck, whatever you decide o7

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/77 "2021-04-19T22:22:19Z")

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Project Discovery is unbearably horrible. Yeah, you get paid in isk, but it isn’t Eve.

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**Author:** ![Zane\_Carbin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zane_carbin/32/281983_2.png) [@Zane\_Carbin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zane_Carbin)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/78 "2021-04-20T04:14:33Z")

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Get destroyer from career tuts, fit it for combat exploration and go find a bunch of 3/10. Buy faction/pirate cruiser and go do the 4/10, Watch and Vigils as well.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/79 "2021-04-20T06:52:59Z")

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Same with PI IMHO

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/80 "2021-04-20T09:06:38Z")

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PI is much more connected to the game than PD, in ny opinion.

PI uses objects in space (planets) to produce an amount (based on your choices and skills) of items used in industry, launches this to other objects in space that can be fought over (customs offices) where people can pay taxes to the owner to be able to haul those goods away.

PD creates ISK and skins out of thin air by clicking in an interface, no matter where you are and with no prerequisites.

PI has multiple points of interaction with the universe and with other players and creates content in space. PD has 0 of those.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-you-lost-all-your-assets-and-had-to-start-over-how-would-you-go-about-it/300093/81 "2021-04-20T09:19:01Z")

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The infrastructure _around_ PI may be EvE, but with the arguable exception of transporting stuff in a ship, its core acitivity, if I can call it that is passive farming.

Its a static screen that ticks upwards.

Both have an end result thats usable in the game (PI mats and Isk from Disco) but the core game isnt really connected to the ethos of everythingelse.

Let me destroy people’s PI bases from orbit and then Id agree.

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