# If your new to Eve - Dont **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [November 1, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672 "2022-11-01T14:46:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/61 "2022-11-02T11:51:08Z")
> [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](#): > > I don’t know any PI player who doesn’t lose an Epital from time to time. It’s part of the calculation. In the 5 years I’ve been doing PI I don’t think I’ve lost one yet! Partly because I’ve been lucky, partly because I scout ahead in null sec, don’t fly 10k EHP fits in high, and managed to slip away the few times I got caught at gates and customs offices. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/62 "2022-11-02T14:14:54Z")
That’s cool story bro. Can you show us a killmail proving this? Because as always the OP is obvious alt with no history. I want to see those 1 day russian griefers. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/63 "2022-11-02T14:45:08Z")
@Vokan_Narkar We know it was a recent ganked Epithal near Jita with ~550M P4 in cargo, so I assumed his kill link was this one: > [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > I’ll assume this is the killmail we’re talking about: > > [Epithal | Pallard Serine | Killmail | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104272290/) ---
**Author:** ![Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mindahouf_davaham/32/379996_2.png) [@Mindahouf\_Davaham](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mindahouf_Davaham)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/64 "2022-11-02T15:49:35Z")
My friends who hate eve ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Armorica\_Pulchra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armorica_pulchra/32/340236_2.png) [@Armorica\_Pulchra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Armorica_Pulchra)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/65 "2022-11-02T16:48:03Z")
There are at least 5 to 10 thousand players online everyday, make other friends. Lots of corporations are desperate for recruits. Start there. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/66 "2022-11-02T17:19:31Z")
I don’t see those several 1day old russian griefers there… ---
**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/67 "2022-11-02T22:53:04Z")
> [@zanlo](#): > > …blows you up and steals all your effort. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/2/a42d7ab19ad7b47fc324cb7d994b58cafb9c72b8.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/8/5/085f669be4564f3ec6155337ffd4ebda30564037.gif) ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/8/08e18d85f85aba4fea542ecc5e0ab8db1d95c815.gif) sink or swim. learn and adapt…or not, whatever ---
**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/68 "2022-11-03T17:37:56Z")
Well, one tired nightflight to Jita the jingle of doom played. Perimeter Gate, Tornado. I was even able in my capsule to watch the tornado being Concordokken and their alts stealing my freight. It was kind of a show. Of course I was pissed (and not that tired any more), but it’s part of the game. Sold the killright, the guy was podded later. ---
**Author:** ![KOLASKI\_FALAD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kolaski_falad/32/491020_2.png) [@KOLASKI\_FALAD](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KOLASKI_FALAD)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/69 "2022-11-03T18:48:56Z")
I’m mostly having trouble finding how to fit ship properly an how too do basic stuff… I been playing for couple months. Honestly overly complicated an takes a lot of hours to get just backs concept of EVE. I get supposed to take time just way more then normal even for basic controls… ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/70 "2022-11-03T19:07:59Z")
> [@zanlo](#): > > What happens is a Russian bloke with a 1 day old account blows you up and steals all your effort. If a 1 day old account can do this, then you can too. Join the winning team. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfgang_jannesen/32/496726_2.png) [@Wolfgang\_Jannesen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfgang_Jannesen)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/71 "2022-11-03T22:19:15Z")
[https://www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/search](https://www.eveworkbench.com/fitting/search) This is a great tool for finding fits. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/72 "2022-11-04T00:38:10Z")
> [@KOLASKI\_FALAD](#): > > I’m mostly having trouble finding how to fit ship properly an how too do basic stuff… I been playing for couple months. Honestly overly complicated an takes a lot of hours to get just backs concept of EVE. I get supposed to take time just way more then normal even for basic controls… what do you need help with? Have you tried pyfa? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2022, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/73 "2022-11-04T00:52:44Z")
[EVE Online: Introduction to PYFA - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZak8av0Ys) ---
**Author:** ![KOLASKI\_FALAD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kolaski_falad/32/491020_2.png) [@KOLASKI\_FALAD](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/KOLASKI_FALAD)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/74 "2022-11-05T18:34:11Z")
Omg your a ■■■■■■■ god never been shown this thank you! ---
**Author:** ![zanlo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zanlo/32/312999_2.png) [@zanlo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zanlo)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/75 "2022-11-11T15:46:14Z")
Thanks for links, advice, help, I don’t agree with all you said but have now tried running 50m per trip in and been ignored so overall a disheartening first start and would’ve been nice to know about it more before it happened, but ce la vie. BTW that wasnt my ship linked above ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/if-your-new-to-eve-dont/382672/76 "2023-02-09T15:46:43Z")
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