# I'm a Space Hobo

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [August 26, 2022, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881 "2022-08-26T08:56:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/153 "2022-08-26T19:42:54Z")

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Btw as this thread is dead anyway as the OP has ragequit 🤭 in more detail as far as I understand it works like this:

- When you load the link in the post it activates the related function in the forum software (discourse) and looks up the page the link is pointing to (this happens client side I guess so it is your computer that looks up the site).

- Steam store provides the game’s store page dynamically based on the request’s geolocation (yours, the server provided as your source location, VPN might alter it which is the very purpose of such but depending on your provider the geolocation might be incorrect or even deliberately obfuscated) thus if someone through a German source looks it up it provides the German page by default (or at least the local currency associated with Germany) and so on.

- The forum software pulls the data from the loaded steam store page and creates the preview then inserts it in the post. (Thus you will see the details or at least the currency according to your local one, or the one the geolocation points out as the source, though it might be imprecise.)

All this happens in almost an instant though. At least this is my educated assumption how this works, which might be not entirely accurate in the end though.

Edit: Note that discourse is like a complex script, not just a basic static or simply scripted forum like the old ones, it is a full program in script form that is running in your browser.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/154 "2022-08-26T20:10:02Z")

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The beacon would deliver 😉

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/155 "2022-08-26T20:15:34Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Again: Paying for Skills is ridiculous.  
> It’s much better to earn them by playing the game.

If you look at the list of skills we have, how would you propose to earn them by playing the game ? Which would you take first ? Which last ? And why ?  
Seen from that perspective you may have to adjust your opinion. The possibilities (and choices) in this game are _huge_.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/156 "2022-08-26T20:20:01Z")

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> [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> I was only here to have interesting discussions.

I hear you on that. The EVE forums do generate a fair bit of lively discussion - sometimes too lively.

It’s unfortunate that out of the hundreds of thousands of EVE players that a dozen or two apparently exist only to make the forums as unwelcoming as possible. Even though that’s an incredibly tiny percent (that would generally get banned in most other game forums), it’s a very visible small portion.

> [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> I know why I like off-line single-player games now.

My own schedule keeps me out of EVE and the forums for approximately half the year, most years. I do find I need that amount of break to keep a more reasonable perspective.

At any rate, best of luck with whatever games take your fancy next!

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/157 "2022-08-26T20:33:27Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> I don’t invent myself excuses. I’m honest enough to know that I need to work on myself.  
> That’s what separates people like me from people like you.

Bro you’re literally playing an open world PvP space game. And you’re complaining about having to play the game to advance in the game.

Wut.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> If you choose to take it as a personal insult that you just need to get off your ass and earn the isk (which takes seconds), thats on you, friend.

Apparently he doesn’t want to play the game yet play the game LOL.

> [@Maxine\_Macks](#):
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> Usually all you have to do is be yourself to be rewarded with enemies. Their demons are disturbed by the good in you. That’s why they have to project their corruption on you.

What in the crazy talk is this? 😃

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Yes it’s great. Except that in Elder Scrolls I don’t have to pay for skills and there are no taxes… taxes in a game: what a joke.

First time playing an MMO huh? I recommend Stardew 😃

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> But since you insist: Marxism is 1000²¹ times better than your inhuman capitalism.

Ah. Whose gonna tell you about human nature LOL.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> But if it is a capitalism simulator then I’ll stop playing and uninstall this minute. I don’t support capitalism in any form.

Yes. Please uninstall. Stardew is over that way 😃

Um. Brosef. You are literally supporting capatalism right meow. You support it everyday. You supported it when you subbed to EVE ROFL.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> I can do missions without using isk and I can also mine without using isk with that free Venture I got frm mission agent.

LOL you can’t eventually my guy.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> No. Skills should be earned by doing things in the game, just like they reward us with isk when we do things, I think it’s called Reward program or some such.

No LOL. EVE’s whole shtick since the beginning has been real time skill training. Its what attracted me to EVE in the first place. And of course being able to murder people.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> I like taxes in real life but not in a game. In a game it feels predatory.

Its called an ISK sink LOL. Also how else would corps buy things?

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Everything is pay for in this game! And it’s too damn expensive!! Everything you want to do in this game you have to pay, feels like I’m in Beverley Hills or something: want to take a leak? Pay!  
> Feels like the devs are saying " don’t play our game, go away, bum!"

Bro you’re just bad at the game. ISK is not hard to make. Learn the basics, farm 3s until you can hop in a raven for 4s. Farm 4s, sell LP, profit. Don’t run in SoE systems.

You’re welcome 😃

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> I’m saying we shouldn’t have to **buy** skills, we should be able to earn them by doing.

LOL this isn’t that type of skill structure. It wouldn’t make sense at all. EVE is nearly 20 years old. I suggest UO 😃 Just chop some wood bro. Or New World if you want more modern.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Getting skill by doing is better and makes more sense than buying them.

You are playing the game to earn the skill LOL. You gotta earn the ISK to get the skill.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> A small amount of isk is like 100isk or a 1000isk, not a million! Some of those skills cost millions! That’s ridiculous! I’m only a Capsuleer, I’m not Elon Musk!

A million ISK is literally nothing.

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Plus it’s a one-time fee, not 20€ every month. That’s the price of my water bill. Except I can take a shower with that water. What can I do with EVE?

Bro no one cares. Either play the game or don’t LOL. Obv sandbox is too much for you. Its ok bro 😃

> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> No one talked about “too challenging”

It obv is for you or else this wouldn’t be a road block LOL.

> [@Maxine\_Macks](#):
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> It’s very easy to understand your point.

Yea. Their point is they want to play EVE without playing EVE 😃

> [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> I think I agree with Kahna Sung. This forum isn’t worth my time either.  
> I don’t even think the game is worth my time, much less the 20e they ask for it.  
> See you in Elite, looks like you play it too.

Can I haz the stuff bro?

> [@Maxine\_Macks](#):
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> Send me message in EVE, let me know who you are in Elite. This whole EVE thing isn’t worth my time either.

Can I haz the stuff bro?

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Not entirely sure either. Maybe a fantasy MMO player who wants to implement a system like:

There is one. UO 😃

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Is this supposed to be the same person who was kicked from RvB leadership and had a huge drama about it back then? Or who do you suspect is the original? 🤔

Nah its not Blue. Her typing is unique.

> [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> I quickly deduced this forum is daily visited by people who have mental problems and I don’t want to be a part of it.

What qualifications do you have in order to make this a credible deduction?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/158 "2022-08-26T20:37:49Z")

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It’s a bit off topic indeed, but as the thread has gone way off track anyway and the OP left…

You may be right about Discourse doing the localization on that link.

I don’t think localization is based on geolocation though, as as my current geolocation (Germany, on German wifi) does not correspond to the Dutch link I’m seeing, but my device and browser settings (Dutch, like myself) do.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/159 "2022-08-26T20:47:51Z")

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I see, that’s an interesting detail indeed. Then maybe the Steam store bases its displayed version on the browser preferences?

Have you signed in to the Steam store prior and if yes did you set your currency / region Dutch (if such exists)?

Because Steam has regional pricing and you can set your region too or at least the display language but if you haven’t then maybe Steam uses the system settings if has access to I guess.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/160 "2022-08-26T20:54:24Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Have you signed in to the Steam store prior and if yes did you set your currency / region Dutch (if such exists)?

It exists, but haven’t done that on this device. So system settings makes more sense.

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/161 "2022-08-26T21:02:55Z")

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> [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> These morons just got a new player disgusted

I was disgusted but I’m not going to let them drive me out. Best thing to do with troll is ignore them and most forums have a block feature anyway so why not use it?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/162 "2022-08-26T21:13:18Z")

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Oh hey, you’re still around!

To go back to topic: you haven’t reacted to my earlier post that [compared EVE skill training to skill training in the matrix.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/119)

What do you think about that?

Or how would you like to see skill training instead? Like the fantasy MMO skill training similar to what Uriel mentioned?

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Maybe a fantasy MMO player who wants to implement a system like: `Chop wood ➔ wood chopping skill increases.` `Use sword ➔ sword skill increases.`

What is your idea of how learning skills in EVE should work?

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/163 "2022-08-26T21:25:52Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> What is your idea of how learning skills in EVE should work?

I guess it works well enough as it is. My suggestion was stupid anyway and it’s no wonder half the thread is people being confused about it. Because it was bad idea and poorly explained.

@ISD_Traindriver Please close this thread. It’s catastrophic.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/164 "2022-08-26T21:34:23Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> > [@Ursula\_Anders](#):
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> > These morons just got a new player disgusted
> 
> I was disgusted but I’m not going to let them drive me out. Best thing to do with troll is ignore them and most forums have a block feature anyway so why not use it?

Three characters. All born around the same time. All become forum besties. All still in starter corp. All private their forum stats. All showing more knowledge than they should as “new” players. All kissing up to the same characters and hating on the same characters. All playing the forum and not the game. All entitled whiners. Two of three quitting the game at the same time with the third to follow shortly.

Not the first time some guy has done this and probably not the last. You do you, bro. But as I said previously, don’t keep doing the exact same script. Not long ago there were three characters that did the exact same thing.

Coincidence? I think not.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/165 "2022-08-26T21:36:30Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> But would you use French or English if you did?

They speak Canadian in Canada, just like we speak Great British in Great Britain.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/166 "2022-08-26T21:38:07Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> @ISD_Traindriver Please close this thread. It’s catastrophic.

Nobody is forcing you to read the thread.

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/167 "2022-08-26T21:45:05Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Nobody is forcing you to read the thread

I created the thread. I can ask ISD to close it.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/168 "2022-08-26T21:59:23Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> I created the thread

Well okay, I will let you, but only since you asked so nicely.

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/169 "2022-08-26T22:01:39Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Well okay, I will let you, but only since you asked so nicely

Another troll then. Ok.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/170 "2022-08-26T22:11:27Z")

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> [@Kahna\_Sung](#):
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> Another troll then

How rude

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/171 "2022-08-26T22:48:29Z")

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@ISD_Golem Please close this thread. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Kahna\_Sung](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kahna_sung/32/332492_2.png) [@Kahna\_Sung](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kahna_Sung)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-a-space-hobo/374881/172 "2022-08-26T22:51:32Z")

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@ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode Please close this thread. Thank you.

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