# Impact of European Commission Crackdown on Virtual Currency in EVE Online? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** payment\ **Created:** [March 27, 2025, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245 "2025-03-27T00:23:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/42 "2025-03-28T23:29:32Z")
That’s true. I did notice today that their heavily discounted 12- and 24-month Omega bundles are on sale in the NES for 600 PLEX **more** than the two most comparable PLEX bundles likely to be heavily discounted (3600/6600 vs 3000/6000). ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/43 "2025-03-29T01:15:15Z")
If you either can’t or are too lazy to do some basic math to figure out what you’re actually spending in the NES store, that’s on you… ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/44 "2025-03-29T04:51:15Z")
> [@Hatch\_Nasty](#): > > That’s what this EU regulation is about. Well…thankfully in 2016 I voted to tell the EU where it can shove its daft regulations. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/45 "2025-03-29T04:56:51Z")
> [@Hatch\_Nasty](#): > > EDIT: and importantly, would it affect the player’s purchase decision if that real world cost was displayed next to the item? Well, you might get fewer people crying and shouting over the loss of their precious Venture if a message popped up saying ’ The real life cost of your Venture was 7 pence’ ---
**Author:** ![Hatch\_Nasty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hatch_nasty/32/512820_2.png) [@Hatch\_Nasty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hatch_Nasty)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/46 "2025-03-29T05:07:43Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > The real life cost of your Venture was 7 pence Not even. At 800k ISK, a fitted Venture is worth little more than half a penny ($0.007). ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/47 "2025-03-29T11:40:33Z")
Most of the annoyance of losing a ship is in the _having to go and get a new one, fit it and fly back to where you were/somewhere else and start whatever you were doing from scratch_ rather than the cost. Anyone who equates that to _just crying about the cost of the shop_ is just trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/48 "2025-03-29T13:58:58Z")
> [@Akkar\_Kardashev](#): > > Most of the annoyance of losing a ship is in the _having to go and get a new one, fit it and fly back to where you were/somewhere else and start whatever you were doing from scratch_ rather than the cost. You mean you don’t have a hundred spare £0.07 Ventures in dock already ? ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/49 "2025-03-29T14:36:05Z")
Given that I don’t mine, no… but that’s not the point. The units of effort still need to be completed regardless of when it actually gets done, and it’s that which is more costly than the ISK cost itself. …which of course you already know, but trolling is literally your only enjoyment (I’m guessing, but why would anyone do it except for lack of better options for use of their time?). ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/50 "2025-03-29T16:10:35Z")
my friend, no state survive without taxes or regulation ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/52 "2025-03-29T21:34:13Z")
You’re not unhinged at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/53 "2025-03-29T22:32:57Z")
> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#): > > my friend, no state survive without taxes or regulation No state survives if taxpayer’s money is being wasted on legislating whether a Jaffa Cake is a cake or a biscuit or a banana has the right curviness. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/54 "2025-03-29T22:37:17Z")
Yeah there’s definitely air getting in all right ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/55 "2025-03-30T00:34:58Z")
also that ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/57 "2025-03-30T05:08:24Z")
GrrrCCCPhahahahahththahgat GarrrGAUNKERShathathathathahaht ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/58 "2025-03-30T09:57:30Z")
With the vague vibe of a GBNews enthusiast 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/59 "2025-03-30T10:48:09Z")
I think it’s nice there is some legislation against anti-customer practices like misleading products, Apple refusing to adapt a standard adapter or gaming companies using dark patterns to manipulate customers and obfuscate their in-game purchases. I don’t agree with everything the EU does, but I like this particular change. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/60 "2025-03-30T11:55:34Z")
Lol…you feel the need to post _three_ posts of ad hominem splurge all because you were shown to be spouting nonsense in one ? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/62 "2025-03-30T12:18:29Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > or gaming companies using dark patterns to manipulate customers and obfuscate their in-game purchases. Meh. I agree with Quakegod above. Working out the value of one’s spending doesn’t exactly require a degree in quantum thermodynamics. For example I have a rough sense that £10 is about 1.8 billion ISK. Its gone up since I last bought PLEX. I can use this to get a general idea of what any ship is ‘worth’. Incidentally, a little thing some may not know. If you hold the cursor over the ISK value in killboard, it displays the rl value. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/63 "2025-03-30T13:23:50Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Working out the value of one’s spending doesn’t exactly require a degree in quantum thermodynamics. How about basic economics? That seems to be the first point of contention. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > For example I have a rough sense that £10 is about 1.8 billion ISK. Mhhhmm… > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > I can use this to get a general idea of what any ship is ‘worth’. Oh really? > [@PROSPECTOR PACK "READY TO FLY RETRIEVER"](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/prospector-pack-ready-to-fly-retriever/352705): > > Found a picture of the “Fitting” for the “READY TO FLY RETRIEVER” on Reddit. No rigs, no DC. Good fit all in all. 100 Apparently a retriever was worth $25, which according to the above, places its value north of 4 billion ISK. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Lol…you feel the need to post _three_ posts of ad hominem splurge all because you were shown to be spouting nonsense in one ? Pot, meet kettle. > [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > Incidentally, a little thing some may not know. If you hold the cursor over the ISK value in killboard, it displays the rl value. _Estimated_ value. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245/64 "2025-03-30T14:04:30Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > How about basic economics? Um…it doesn’t really _get_ more basic than £10 being 1.8 billion ISK. Which bit are you struggling with ? > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Oh really? Yes, really. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/impact-of-european-commission-crackdown-on-virtual-currency-in-eve-online/481245.md?page=4)