# In regard of Imperial slave raids and public uproar, call to Capsuleer Forces!

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**Created:** [October 22, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-regard-of-imperial-slave-raids-and-public-uproar-call-to-capsuleer-forces/197073 "2019-10-22T16:31:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anna\_Stjornauga](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_stjornauga/32/377304_2.png) [@Anna\_Stjornauga](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Stjornauga)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-regard-of-imperial-slave-raids-and-public-uproar-call-to-capsuleer-forces/197073/13 "2019-10-22T18:58:14Z")

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Commander, a few points.

First:

> [@Diana\_Kim](#):
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> As far as I am aware, Imperial enslaving policy allows enslaving only criminals and prisoners of war, and considering the raid will be taking place in the territory of the enemy, it’s quite obvious their targets are those who attack Empire.

This is not the case.  
Floseswin is in Amarr hands, and has been for six months. This means it is not enemy territory, and in fact the original order is:

> [@Militia corruption: Breaking the Deafening Silence on Dirty Deals](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/militia-corruption-breaking-the-deafening-silence-on-dirty-deals/196136/85):
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> Additionally, His Grace has seen fit to commission labour acquisition expeditions to each and every system in the Upper Rebel Provinces currently **held by the forces of the 24th Imperial Crusade**. All labour acquisition specialist groups will be accompanied by troops drawn from the Shining Flame company, the Red and Silver Hand company, and the Order of St. Tetrimon. A priority order has been drawn up for the full reclaiming of the population of Floseswin IV.

Emphasis added. They are not raiding enemy territory. They are attacking civilian populations within Empire-controlled systems. This is no different than the Federation taking systems, and rounding up the Caldari citizens in those systems to be sent off the Black Eagle prisons for torture and inquisition. Would you consider that ‘internal Federal politics’? Would you have no objection to that?

Second, ‘Forced labor’ is a broad category, Commander. The breeding facilities the Amarr use, where Minmatar slaves are systematically and repeatedly raped so that they will produce more slaves, are technically ‘labor camps’. And ‘forced labor’ offers no surety of being fed, nor of being treated in a way that is not torturous. Certainly, generations of actual experience has shown that both torture _and_ starvation occur while ‘laboring’ for the Amarr—consider our dicussion on whipping slaves, as an example.

Finally, while I agree with you that it is shameful for people to keep their silence on any Federal abuses of PoWs, I have to question whether or not you really understand that _you are supporting exactly the same thing_ with this statement.

Please reconsider.

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