# In the light of recent news **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732 "2019-09-27T20:37:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/1 "2019-09-27T20:37:17Z")
> Ardishapur Military Circuit: Lower Domain, Derelik and **Lower Rebel Provinces** > Sarum Military Circuit: Upper Domain, Bleak Lands, Devoid and **Upper Rebel Provinces** _Bring it._ ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/2 "2019-09-27T20:40:57Z")
> [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](#): > > _Bring it._ Ok. Remember what happened the last time you said this. ---
**Author:** ![Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elsebeth_rhiannon/32/418836_2.png) [@Elsebeth\_Rhiannon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elsebeth_Rhiannon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/3 "2019-09-27T20:41:21Z")
> [@Teinyhr](#): > > Ok. Remember what happened the last time you said this. Oh, trust me, I do. ---
**Author:** ![Kril\_Efrit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kril_efrit/32/336288_2.png) [@Kril\_Efrit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kril_Efrit)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/4 "2019-09-27T21:48:43Z")
We certainly remember it. Irresponsibility by capsuleer renegades clothing themselves in the rhetoric of tribal concern seems to be a bottomless well of troubles for our people. Perhaps we’ll look to do something about that if the security of Matar is further imperiled by such loose talk. Kril Efrit, Matar Planetary Security ---
**Author:** ![Lomong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lomong/32/71733_2.png) [@Lomong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lomong)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/5 "2019-09-27T21:58:32Z")
If you’re so concerned with the rhetoric of tribal concerns being draped over downright criminal behaviour, shouldn’t you rather be investigating Ushra’Khan, or various tribal leaders, or perhaps Grand Papa Scumbag Shakor himself? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/6 "2019-09-27T22:10:29Z")
@Kril_Efrit: With this declaration, the Empress has asserted Imperial authority over Republic space. To say nothing in the face of such a claim is tacit agreement. So I am forced to wonder: If the choice is between violence, and cowardice, which would _you_ suggest? ---
**Author:** ![Nomistrav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nomistrav/32/278296_2.png) [@Nomistrav](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nomistrav)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/7 "2019-09-27T22:18:22Z")
I try not to invest much stake in Republic politics, but… Did not the Fleet deploy to border systems in light of this news and on the expectation that the security of Matar is… imperiled…? Elsebeth is certainly passionate, but the two of you seem to be in the same mode of thinking, from this outsider’s perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Teinyhr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teinyhr/32/374406_2.png) [@Teinyhr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teinyhr)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/8 "2019-09-27T22:25:28Z")
I think Mr. Efrit is concerned about the aloofness that many capsuleers seem to have about the trouble they might invite on the regular people that are connected with them. There has been a recent increase of targeting of family members and hometowns of notable capsuleers, and I wouldn’t say his concern - if I’m reading this right and that is his concern - is entirely unfounded. Of course, there is little we can do about it, except try not to escalate. ---
**Author:** ![Che\_Biko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/che_biko/32/500836_2.png) [@Che\_Biko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Che_Biko)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/9 "2019-09-27T22:58:57Z")
If I understand Efrit’s words correctly, then I will agree with him. Be careful what you wish for. ---
**Author:** ![Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/reginald_sakakibara/32/270314_2.png) [@Reginald\_Sakakibara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Reginald_Sakakibara)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/10 "2019-09-27T23:08:37Z")
Would it not make more sense to interpret “upper rebel provinces” and “lower rebel provinces” to mean those Low Security areas of Metropolis and Heimatar, in light of the ongoing efforts of the 24th Imperial Crusade? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/11 "2019-09-28T00:47:24Z")
Not unless that’s how the Amarr have historically used those terms. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/12 "2019-09-28T06:12:18Z")
I’m pretty sure that Amarr has called them that for more than a century. Before the Rebellion they had other names. But this is certainly a major departure from the policies that characterized the Pax Amarria of Heideran. ---
**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/13 "2019-09-28T06:15:28Z")
At the end of the day, it will be us capsuleers who take the brunt of the burden and will do what needs to be done. I think she knows damn well what she’s setting herself up for. And we will all stand by her side when it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/14 "2019-09-28T06:20:21Z")
I think the people of… was it Sundsele?.. might disagree with the idea that capsuleers take the brunt of the burden. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/15 "2019-09-28T06:28:27Z")
> [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](#): > > I’m pretty sure that Amarr has called them that for more than a century. But not only the _low-security_ parts. ---
**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/16 "2019-09-28T06:29:37Z")
Seeing as you had to think about that…I’m gonna go ahead and say it wasn’t and still isn’t of much concern to you. But go ahead, use that to your advantage if that’s all you’ve got. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/17 "2019-09-28T06:30:09Z")
Oh, yes. Certainly it refers to more than low security. ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/18 "2019-09-28T06:34:46Z")
I may not care about Rebel placenames, but at least I recognize that those people shouldered more of a burden than any capsuleer. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/19 "2019-09-28T06:38:11Z")
And so, with orders from the Empress to enforce Imperial Law in the Upper and Lower Rebel Provinces… it would be irresponsible of us to _not_ assume that the Houses mean to _obey_ those orders, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaven_lok_ri/32/293159_2.png) [@Gaven\_Lok\_ri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaven_Lok_ri)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732/20 "2019-09-28T06:41:07Z")
I mean, the chances of peace died more than a decade ago when the Matari attacked us, so the only thing surprising about the renewal of Amarr claims on that territory is that it took this long. Edit: The rest of the announcement is _far_ more shocking. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-the-light-of-recent-news/192732.md?page=2)