# In what case do players attack each other? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [June 9, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-what-case-do-players-attack-each-other/247720 "2020-06-09T06:33:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 19
**Author:** ![ShahFluffers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shahfluffers/32/258921_2.png) [@ShahFluffers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ShahFluffers)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-what-case-do-players-attack-each-other/247720/19 "2020-06-11T02:20:34Z")
> [@Eruch\_Von\_Manstein](#): > > oh so people will go into your mission location and STEAL your objective?? Among other things, yes. The idea is not to steal anything. It is to get you mad enough that you engage them. And once you engage someone who has stolen something from you they can engage back. A general tip I can offer is this: A player will generally pick a fight when they think they have a reasonable chance of winning. So if a Frigate has stolen some loot / objective from under you… it is because the Frigate thinks they can take you on. > [@Eruch\_Von\_Manstein](#): > > and PVE fit can not defeat a PVP fit? what’s the difference? isn’t it just a bunch of guns, some EWAR and a bit of armour and healing? The answer to this is… complicated. More than any one post. IN GENERAL… the difference between a PvE ship and PvE ship is: - Performance vs Endurance – PvP-fit ships are all about putting out as much damage as possible, as quickly as possible, while absorbing lots of damage in a short time frame and being highly mobile. – PvE-fit ships are optimized for dishing and absorbing a consistent amount of damage over a long period of time with a minimum of investment. – Since the PvE ship needs to be more consistent over a longer period of time it will often sacrifice raw performance and speed. - Modules – PvP ships are often equipped with specific modules to ensnare a target ship (to prevent escape) and/or debilitate a target ship (to make the target easier to engage). – PvE ships have no need for the same kinds of modules as NPCs won’t “run away” and there are often too many NPCs to focus a single EWAR on. Instead, there is a greater focus on firepower and defense - Min/Maxed Stats – PvE ships tend to optimize towards being highly resistant towards a specific NPC using specific tanks and tactics. This gives them greater endurance with less modules, allowing the ship to be fit with other stuff. However doing this will leave BIG holes in ship defenses and reduce flexibility to unforeseen situations. – PvP ships generally don’t know what they will engage ahead of time. So they will go for “omni-resistance” against all damage types and opt for more speed (which gives them greater ability to dictate the terms of a battle). * * * I suggest you read up on PvP mechanics and fits. Even if you only want to do PvE, it is good to know how someone might try to attack you and in what kind of ship or fit. Here is a recent thread regarding combat mechanics: > [@More questions](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/more-questions/246781): > > Where do rigs come from, that is, are there blue prints ? Am I better off buying or keeping all the broken stuff i salvage to make one (once you tell me how that’s done)? Are drones worth using to protect when mining or exploring? Assuming the venture or exploring frigate are otherwise unarmed or lightly armed would I just be wasting drones if i had them deployed while mining in low sec? What are the different colors on the display? red = NPCs or very bad people. white are just other playe… And another thread that references tanking/defense of a ship: > [@No Shield boost and Armor repair together? And green icon bars?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/no-shield-boost-and-armor-repair-together-and-green-icon-bars/239883): > > When I try to fit my ship (ant of my starting ships) with a Shield Booster and an Armor Repairer, I get a Fitting Notice and Fitting Advisory saying that’s not normal confused Huh? Why not? Ships have both shields and armor. Why is this ill advised? And very noob question, when I’m undocked, what are the green bars at the tops of the fittings icons to the right of the capacitor wheel? What do those indicate? So far I’ve not seen them move while doing tutorial or agent missions. General questions about death in EVE: > [@Does Dying Make You Worse?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/does-dying-make-you-worse/237734): > > So, I died a couple of times tonight and I went and grabbed another Moa. Same set up as the one that died, but where I was smashing through Sansha rats, laying waste to folorn hideaways with a couple of magazines of ammo, it’s just taken me seven full magazines to do the same thing… The number of misses was unreal! Have I missed something vital in this game that has made this new clone worse than my old one? More general questions: > [@I'm new and trying to climb this steep ladder](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/im-new-and-trying-to-climb-this-steep-ladder/229128): > > So i’ve got a few days here on this game and i’m having a rough time making isk I am mining with my friend but the estimated isk is nothing like what i sell to (usually 1/3 out of estimated) I am focusing on trading, manufacturing and hauling - industry mainly - and i really want some input on becoming succesuful especially with hauling/trading. Also i was thinking about contracts for courier. Atm i have a bestower fitted to 13k m3 . Can i do anything with it? I am Amarr and curently at Conob… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/in-what-case-do-players-attack-each-other/247720)._