# Incoming Changes to the Orca **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [March 5, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incoming-changes-to-the-orca/298741 "2021-03-05T02:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2021, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incoming-changes-to-the-orca/298741/4 "2021-03-05T08:29:07Z")
> [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > It’s yield is lower than a boosted barge To get boosted barge you need barge in orca. With perfect skills you get same same yield and > [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > The tank only reduces the changes of being ganked and the hold provides longevity in the belt. Perfect solution for solo mining and starting point for own fleet of alts. > [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > AFK mining typically is done in HS Considering amount of mining done in HS ([https://images.ctfassets.net/7lhcm73ukv5p/4LnTGg7Otdm5ZugEhSRT97/31d68e3b9633a0b5d044edd15b6aba17/3\_mining.value.by.region\_bar.png](https://images.ctfassets.net/7lhcm73ukv5p/4LnTGg7Otdm5ZugEhSRT97/31d68e3b9633a0b5d044edd15b6aba17/3_mining.value.by.region_bar.png)) this is good enough reason to finally nerf it. > [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > The first issue is that this makes the Orca useless beyond an AFK booster again. Rattati did mention that they would get an “Ace up its sleeve”, but did comment on the number of roles it already has. Assuming no new rules, it would need to be a boost either boosting, hauling, or fleet survivability. CCP said they have idea for it. Yet you completely ignore that and claim that changes will be only buffs or nerfs to current stats. Maybe wait for actual announcement. Since CCP obviously has something planed to finally make Orca and Rorqual “industrial command ship”. > [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > The issue with the boosting/hauling combo is that you stop boosting as soon as you have to unload. MWD cycle is 10 seconds. Boost cycle is 60 seconds. If structure is close enough you should be able to deposit ore in time. 20 minutes cycle would only make them again off grid boosters. Give boost, warp to structure for perfect safety, come back when timer ends > [@Lugues\_Slive](#): > > The second issue is, I have been waiting for a drone based mining ship since they removed the 15 drone Domi. We finally got it and now it is being removed. While my wants don’t create a niche, it would still be nice to have options when it comes to mining. One option is a second line of barges/exhumers that are based on drones. Another is to move the drone bonuses from the Orca to the Porpoise. With the lower cost, tank, and hold size hopefully it would not earn the ire of the player base. Totally agree. More options is always better. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incoming-changes-to-the-orca/298741)._