# Increase CONCORD Response Time at non-Gate/non-Station locations **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [December 29, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975 "2019-12-29T18:25:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/81 "2020-01-03T15:37:56Z")
Stop being ignorant. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/82 "2020-01-03T22:49:11Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So i count 2/14 Orcas are used for mining support. Ok, and? Who cares. Orcas are deliberately meant to be a viable mining vessel. This is by design. So it’s fine for people to use Orcas to mine, they have made a choice about what they value. Posting screenshots like this does nothing to back up any of your claims, the data set is too small, you are clearly catching the same players each day in those screenshots so the results are going to come out similar each day of course, and it shows nothing about their behaviour. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/83 "2020-01-03T23:13:40Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Ok, and? > Who cares. Orcas are deliberately meant to be a viable mining vessel. This is by design. > So it’s fine for people to use Orcas to mine, they have made a choice about what they value. So you’re position is that Orcas are meant to be used to solo mine? They are not designed as mining support vessels? > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Posting screenshots like this does nothing to back up any of your claims, the data set is too small, you are clearly catching the same players each day in those screenshots so the results are going to come out similar each day of course, and it shows nothing about their behaviour. It doesn’t matter how often i catch the same people doing the same thing. All that matters is the use of orcas vs barges and what that usage looks like. If the same guy mines in an orca 10 days in a row, that still means he’s favouring the orca over barges for those 10 days. Don’t ask me for proof and then stick your head in the sand when I give you it. Feel free to collect your own data. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/84 "2020-01-03T23:21:04Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So you’re position is that Orcas are meant to be used to solo mine? They are not designed as mining support vessels? This is your issue, you are assuming that because they can be used one way it negates the others. Aka false dichotomy. Both can be true at once. If a vessel is able to mine viably while supporting a fleet operation clearly it can also mine solo. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Don’t ask me for proof and then stick your head in the sand when I give you it. > Feel free to collect your own data. You haven’t given any proof of the claims you were making. All you have done is found a convenient system with Orcas. And sure, some people favour Orcas. This isn’t an issue. If zero people were using Orca’s that would be an issue. If zero people were using barges that would be an issue. As it is we have some using Orcas, some using Barges. This is not like pre tiericide when everyone used Hulks. (& no, finding a convenient system with no barges is not proof) Me running out and finding a convenient system with no orcas also would be no proof. Because what we need are numbers only CCP has to show if there is or isn’t any issue. Because we need to know how many people do afk Orcas, if any do that now that Trigs & FOB’s exist. And how much ore high sec Orcas pull in relative to high sec barges. Global stats, not local. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/85 "2020-01-03T23:44:43Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > If a vessel is able to mine viably while supporting a fleet operation clearly it can also mine solo. It’s not a false dichotomy. You just don’t understand what I’m showing you. If the orca is hardly used in the way that it’s intended (lets say only 2/14 times) and overwhelmingly used in another way, a way that is widely regarded as detrimental to the game experience, then I’d argue it should be changed. And i know what we should change because history tells us it works. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > All you have done is found a convenient system with Orcas Pick a 0.5 system then. The _convenience_ is that you are either unwilling or incapable of seeing what’s infront of you. You dismiss that orcas are used more for mining than barges. So i show you that not only are they used far more for solo mining than they are fleet support, but also used as much as all barges and exhumers combined. And faced with that you’re position suddenly changes to: ‘They’re meant to solo mine’. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/86 "2020-01-04T00:01:26Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > And faced with that you’re position suddenly changes to: First, nice twisting of my words. Second, what position change, my position always has been - They are meant to be able to mine. - The suggestions placed in this thread are not going to decrease the use of Orcas, if anything the concord timer increase will increase the use of Orcas, because barges will be easier to gank. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/87 "2020-01-04T00:05:46Z")
We accept your denial of the problem. Since you are a denier there is no need for you to participate in the conversation about solutions. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/88 "2020-01-04T00:16:37Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > First, nice twisting of my words. I’m not twisting. You’re either fine with what I’m showing you or you’re not (or you really are in denial). It’s not a false dichotomy, it’s a perfectly binary choice. By saying there is no problem with what I’m showing you, you are saying there is no problem with the majority (10/14 minimum) of Orcas solo mining rather than supporting fleets. You are fine that more orcas are used for mining than any barge or exhumer. Infact, twice as much as the most common barge/exhumer). You even go on to say it’s by design that they are doing this did you not? > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > They are meant to be able to mine. You’re saying they are designed to be able to mine such that 10/14 solo mine rather than support barges. And I’m not saying they shouldn’t mine at all. But that we can cut back their mining yield such that they are not used twice as much as the most popular barge/exhumer or as much as all barges and exhumers combined. And that more than 2/14 Orcas are used for fleet support. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/89 "2020-01-04T00:18:08Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > By saying there is no problem with what I’m showing you, you are saying there is no problem with the majority (10/14 minimum) of Orcas solo mining rather than supporting fleets. Holly ■■■■. You found a system with more orcas, therefore the whole game only revolves around orcas. You know what ? I found one system in HS without a titan, therefore there is no titan in the game. What a stupid position. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > You’re saying they are designed to be able to mine such that 10/14 solo mine rather than support barges. No, they are meant to be able to mine. Period. That they are used to mine, is not an issue. your 10/14 is just complete garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/90 "2020-01-04T00:19:11Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Holly ■■■■. You found a system with more orcas, therefore the whole game only revolves around orcas. Feel free to collect your own data. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > You know what ? I found one system in HS without a titan, therefore there is no titan in the game. I think i may know a causal link for that. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/91 "2020-01-04T00:20:41Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Feel free to collect your own data. Your are the one affirming something, you are the one who should provide the data. You don’t. You try, but you fail. That’s because you make false claim about data that do not exist. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > I think i may know a causal link for that. And you again missed the point. Your 10/14 means NOTHING. You claim a general case from a very specific experience. That’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/92 "2020-01-04T00:24:54Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > No, they are meant to be able to mine. Period. > That they are used to mine, is not an issue. So a gila is meant to combat npc’s and other players. If it is overwhelmingly popular at it compared to it’s competitors, we shouldn’t nerf it? What about if the gila starts doing the job of other classes with overwhelming popularity? Say more gilas are used for fast tackle than frigates? …but it CAN tackle…right? So it wouldn’t be a problem if it was a more popular fast tackle than any frigate…what about as much as all frigates combined? > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > And you again missed the point. So you can tell me a causal link for why orcas would be more popular than barges in Jufvitte? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/93 "2020-01-04T00:31:37Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > I’m not twisting. You’re either fine with what I’m showing you or you’re not (or you really are in denial). It’s not a false dichotomy, it’s a perfectly binary choice. Or you know, option C. It’s not a binary choice, I believe you are showing a false picture based on your own biases and want to see some real statistics. And even if your picture is correct, your solution is incorrect. So no, it’s not a binary choice, it never is, and your attempt to paint it as one is deliberately misleading. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > If it is overwhelmingly popular at it compared to it’s competitors Your Gila example is a perfect example for false analogies. The Gila was ‘nerfed’ because it was about 95% of all Abyss running. And a comparison to your desired Concord timer change would be “The Gila is 95% of all Abyss running, so we’ll raise the DPS of all Abyss sites”. Which… would have made the Gila even more popular. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > So you can tell me a causal link for why orcas would be more popular than barges in Jufvitte? It couldn’t be anything to do with Gankers not liking to target Orcas now could it. The very same Gankers who have spent years saying ‘fly ships with tanks’… Can’t imagine how that could have an impact on if people fly the highest tank miner or not. The simple fact of the matter is that no one thing causes people as a group to fly a ship, all the bits add up. However, you still haven’t established an issue to people flying Orcas. You have whined about “AFK” but an Orca doesn’t have to be flown afk, and have done nothing to establish that AFK flying of Orcas is commonplace. And if they aren’t AFK, then you have also failed to establish an issue, since they are giving up other things to fly an Orca. P.S. Consider maybe that the issue is Barges being bad, not Orcas being good. Their fittings suck. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/94 "2020-01-04T00:49:06Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > I believe you are showing a false picture based on your own biases and want to see some real statistics. If you think I’m fudging numbers you can easily prove it by going to Jufvitte yourself. Or go around d-scanning 0.5 systems yourself. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > The Gila was ‘nerfed’ because it was about 95% of all Abyss running. So the only reason anything was nerfed was because it was 95% of abyss running? Do you wonder why Domi drone bonus was nerfed? Or the gila and worm nerf BEFORE abyss space was a thing? Or heavy missiles? > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > And a comparison to your desired Concord timer change would be “The Gila is 95% of all Abyss running, so we’ll raise the DPS of all Abyss sites”. Erm no, it would be to remove a low slot to reduce the gilas dps, and then nerf its drone hp bonus to make it more susceptible to losing drones…oh look. That’s why we should nerf the Orca drone yield bonus. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > It couldn’t be anything to do with Gankers not liking to target Orcas now could it. The very same Gankers who have spent years saying ‘fly ships with tanks’… I’m sure it doesn’t hurt. However, ccp have told us that miners prefer afk-ability over tank. The tank is just a bonus. If you wanna nerf that to I’m generally supportive. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > You have whined about “AFK” but an Orca doesn’t have to be flown afk, and have done nothing to establish that AFK flying of Orcas is commonplace. Well _you_ did. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Anyone caring about yield uses barges. And ccp established that tank is less important than afk-ability. And anyone at their keyboard can use a skiff/proc for tank or a cov/hulk for yield. The primary reason to fly an orca (not as fleet support) is afk-ability. Anyone using Orcas as their main mining vessel (especially ones perma running local shield tanks) is most likely not in active control. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/95 "2020-01-04T00:57:00Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > If a venture could mine afk for hours and was being used more than any barge I’d also call it a problem. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > The orcas popularity is down to afk-ability. Yes, you whined about AFKing Orcas, and have done nothing to show that they actually are being AFKed. You have done nothing to show they actually are unbalanced. So some people prefer them, who cares? Your best attempt at anything has barely shown 50% of Orcas in one particular system. That isn’t enough cause for any nerfs, not without actually having global stats backing that showing that they are bringing in a disproportionate amount of Ore as well. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > Do you wonder why Domi drone bonus was nerfed? Or the gila and worm nerf BEFORE abyss space was a thing? Or heavy missiles? Because Global statistics backed it up, not one person Dscanning and whining? > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > The tank is just a bonus. If you wanna nerf that to I’m generally supportive. Man, you really don’t read do you, when did I ever say ‘Nerf the Orca tank’. You just continue to come out with false statements, and keep running around in circles with your argument. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/96 "2020-01-04T01:24:09Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > So some people prefer them, who cares? In general, they are the most preferred mining ship. Even more so than specially designed mining ships. Yeah. It’s a problem when a specialist is less successful than a support vessel in it’s own field. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Your best attempt at anything has barely shown 50% of Orcas in one particular system. That isn’t enough cause for any nerfs, not without actually having global stats backing that showing that they are bringing in a disproportionate amount of Ore as well. Then why did you ask for proof? If you knew you were just going to be dismissive of any data that didn’t tell you what you want to hear, why ask at all? > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Because Global statistics backed it up, not one person Dscanning and whining? You asked. I answered mate. Beggars can’t be choosers. CCP may never release such data. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Man, you really don’t read do you, when did I ever say ‘Nerf the Orca tank’. Given the problem is the orcas popularity for mining over mining barges. You think that popularity is because of their tank…so one thing we can do is nerf the tank. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/97 "2020-01-04T01:58:08Z")
> [@](#): > > When equipped with mining drones these ships will all provide significant mining yield, with improved mining rates coming from the larger ships. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > In general, they are the most preferred mining ship. Even more so than specially designed mining ships. See CCPs statement from the Dev blog. They are mining vessels. They are also Command boosting Vessels. Your issue is that you are trying to say they can only be one, not both. And no, nerfing the tank is not the way forward. that’s just handing the keys to the gankers. Because you would have to nerf the tank to below the Proc to make a difference there as to which mining ship has the best tank. How about you actually come up with one main complaint you have. Rather than running around in circles complaining. Is it that orcas are sort of popular. Is it that you can afk in them (if you don’t care about yield). Is it that they mine too Mich. What’s your actual main complaint here. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/98 "2020-01-04T02:26:48Z")
> [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Your issue is that you are trying to say they can only be one, not both. No. My issue is that they are more successful than specialist mining vessels. Quote me where i said they should have their mining ability completely removed. Or quote me where ccp said they wanted to see Orcas used more than any barge for mining. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Because you would have to nerf the tank to below the Proc to make a difference there as to which mining ship has the best tank. I disagree. In fact I don’t think the tank is a problem because I don’t think orcas are used for their tank. **You** do. My problem is solved with a yield nerf alone. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > How about you actually come up with one main complaint you have. Rather than running around in circles complaining. > Is it that orcas are sort of popular. Is it that you can afk in them (if you don’t care about yield). Is it that they mine too Mich. What’s your actual main complaint here. It’s that they are more popular for mining than specialist mining barges. This is most likely because of their afk-ability (and afk mining is something to be discouraged in general). The answer to this problem is to nerf the yield. We know from history that there is a yield threshold that is undesirable to afk miners. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/99 "2020-01-04T02:37:58Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > My issue is that they are more successful than specialist mining vessels. Your sentence is missing words. More successful means what ? > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > I don’t think orcas are used for their tank. If macks had the same tank, which one would you use ? Seriously your post makes no sense at all. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > they are more popular for mining than specialist mining barges. > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > This is most likely because of their afk-ability citation needed. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975/100 "2020-01-04T03:14:06Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Your sentence is missing words. More successful means what ? More popular/frequent. The expectation is that there would be more specialist mining vessels than support vessels. And/or that support vessels would typically be used for support, and not overwhelmingly as mining vessels alone. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > If macks had the same tank, which one would you use ? If macks had the same tank as an orca, i still think the orca would be more popular because of longer afk-ability. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > citation needed Already covered: > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > And ccp established that tank is less important than afk-ability. And anyone at their keyboard can use a skiff/proc for tank or a cov/hulk for yield. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > Anyone caring about yield uses barges. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-concord-response-time-at-non-gate-non-station-locations/208975.md?page=6)