# Increase Small gang pvp in low sec (Off-Grid Links Comeback?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [November 14, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939 "2019-11-14T22:49:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aecory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aecory/32/169575_2.png) [@Aecory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aecory)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/1 "2019-11-14T22:49:26Z")
I unsubscribed from EVE Online right after they removed off-grid links. I remember spending the better part of a year training an separate character to specifically fly an off-grid linking ship. That ship and pilot were critical in the ability to fight off larger gangs. I was primarily part of a low-sec group who would consistently take on larger fleets because there was a chance with the links and some skillful flying that we could outfight and outplay the larger groups in our area. With Off-grid links removed, that chance disappeared. Trying to manage a on-grid command destroyer in the middle of combat (against a larger fleet) with reduced link potency was ridiculous and my alliance of 25 active players soon realized that low sec had become a pure numbers game. I guess I am just trying to see if there is any interest in bringing back off-grid links. I think it would increase small gang pvp and bring more players back to low sec. Just a small disclosure, I haven’t been active for a couple years and I am reading patch notes to try and catch up. Still trying to decide if it is worth resubbing accounts… Thanks guys and gals! ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/2 "2019-11-14T23:29:01Z")
> [@Aecory](#): > > I guess I am just trying to see if there is any interest in bringing back off-grid links. Jesus christ i hope not. One of the best changes for small gang was nuking OGB. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/3 "2019-11-14T23:57:23Z")
> [@Aecory](#): > > I don’t like that command ship buffs are an active fleet role requiring skill to use and not a passive buff I can buy for my character, remove the skill and let me buy command buffs with cash. No. This is 5 characters. ---
**Author:** ![Aecory](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aecory/32/169575_2.png) [@Aecory](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aecory)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/4 "2019-11-15T00:12:57Z")
Uhh I didn’t write that in my post? I also don’t remember writing that, can you link the source? Edit: Ah, you are just paraphrasing what you think I meant and then answering that, got it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/5 "2019-11-15T00:29:08Z")
> [@Aecory](#): > > can you link the source? > [@Increase Small gang pvp in low sec (Off-Grid Links Comeback?)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939): > > I unsubscribed from EVE Online right after they removed off-grid links. I remember spending the better part of a year training an separate character to specifically fly an off-grid linking ship. That ship and pilot were critical in the ability to fight off larger gangs. I was primarily part of a low-sec group who would consistently take on larger fleets because there was a chance with the links and some skillful flying that we could outfight and outplay the larger groups in our area. With Off-g… ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/6 "2019-11-15T01:46:54Z")
Insert _hahahaohwow.meme_ here. Zero chance of that happening. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/7 "2019-11-15T02:01:27Z")
No thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Last\_Wolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/last_wolf/32/167102_2.png) [@Last\_Wolf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Last_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/8 "2019-11-15T02:49:43Z")
While they are at it they should bring back remote doomsday titans. Vaporizing all non capital ships on grid with a push of a button will surely bring back small scale pvp… right? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/increase-small-gang-pvp-in-low-sec-off-grid-links-comeback/200939/10 "2020-02-13T06:50:21Z")
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