# Incursions and Abandoning Wrecks **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [November 5, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344 "2018-11-05T05:54:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/1 "2018-11-05T05:54:32Z")
I was just told by our incursion FC that the reason they do not allow abandonment of wrecks is that it can cause the incursion server to crash, and that CCP will ban you for doing so. Google hasn’t given me much on the old forum. The new one doesn’t seem to have anything either. Is abandoning wrecks in an incursion site “bannabale”? ---
**Author:** ![R4d1o4ct1v3](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r4d1o4ct1v3/32/184307_2.png) [@R4d1o4ct1v3](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R4d1o4ct1v3)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/2 "2018-11-05T06:29:33Z")
> [@Litsea\_Reticulata](#): > > incursion server to crash It’s all on one server, so that doesn’t make any sense. My guess is that the FC was having a laugh, or making ■■■■ up to stop people doing something he doesn’t like them to do. But then again it’s the EVE servers, and if you so much as sneeze too loudly while logged in it’s likely too crash. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/3 "2018-11-05T06:49:17Z")
Hmmm. Hopefully someone from the ISD or CCP security might be able to confirm the legality, might have to wait until Monday for a response. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Sakimura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_sakimura/32/382213_2.png) [@ISD\_Sakimura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Sakimura)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/4 "2018-11-05T16:42:43Z")
It’s unlikely you will get banned by abandoning wrecks in Incursions. However due to the number of wrecks an Incursion site generate, it does have a significant effect on the server load. If everybody does it it could in worst case scenario cause a server node to crash (unconfirmed belief). ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/5 "2018-11-05T21:52:30Z")
> [@ISD\_Sakimura](#): > > It’s unlikely you will get banned by abandoning wrecks in Incursions. I am not reassured by that word “unlikely”. It seems the count of wrecks in an incursion ‘room’ is the same as for the top tier null security sites. Is the abandonment mechanic ( and resulting server load ) different for incursions than it is for null security space? ---
**Author:** ![Calaheim\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calaheim_koraka/32/45672_2.png) [@Calaheim\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calaheim_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/6 "2018-11-05T23:23:16Z")
Its not the fact that it can cause a server crash, More the fact that it can cause people with shitty connections to crash occasionally so its mainly a courtesy thing. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/7 "2018-11-06T02:37:50Z")
So if I wait until everyone else is off-grid it might not have the same impact? ---
**Author:** ![Calaheim\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calaheim_koraka/32/45672_2.png) [@Calaheim\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calaheim_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/8 "2018-11-06T09:26:55Z")
Probably not, But if your planning to salvage dont bother payout is ■■■■. You will make more money scanning down drones in incursion systems. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/9 "2018-11-07T14:42:41Z")
Don’t have scanning skills. Each room seems to be worth about 10 million ISK, but takes forever to slowboat to each wreck since I can’t tractor them without blueing the whole lot during a fleet. ---
**Author:** ![Mina\_Sebiestar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mina_sebiestar/32/502522_2.png) [@Mina\_Sebiestar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mina_Sebiestar)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/10 "2018-11-08T04:10:44Z")
From my memory it creates a lag spike big enough to potentially put fleet in danger if done in wrong(right) time. So from memory it was frowned upon 10 mill salvage isn’t worth anyone’s 2-3bill ship and doing another site is faster and pays more. Eve hardware changed since than At one point having a ship in side of completed site prevent site from respawning it was used to grief high sec incursion runners sitting in a sites in a noob ships. If you are doing salvaging on an alt while in fleet more than likely you are dead weight not paying attention or contributing via shooting stuff broadcasting on time etc. ---
**Author:** ![Litsea\_Reticulata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/litsea_reticulata/32/328016_2.png) [@Litsea\_Reticulata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Litsea_Reticulata)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/11 "2018-11-08T23:27:39Z")
> [@Mina\_Sebiestar](#): > > From my memory it creates a lag spike big enough to potentially put fleet in danger if done in wrong(right) time. That makes a lot of sense. > [@Mina\_Sebiestar](#): > > If you are doing salvaging on an alt while in fleet more than likely you are dead weight not paying attention or contributing via shooting stuff broadcasting on time etc. My 3rd world internet lag means I am all those things through no fault of my own already. My guns seem to make almost a whole 1/4 extra turn after a target has died before I can re-fire them. I wish CCP would relax some of the client side restrictions on module activation when a client’s lag reaches a certain threshold, though that belongs in another forum thread. Its not so bad when I fly my basilisk, at least I’m guaranteed to have reps staggered compared to everyone else. The only arena in which I am remotely even is drone mechanics, though some within CCP seem to have a real hate for those too. Sentry drones aren’t much use in an incursion though. My major concern was staying away from activities that were a grey area, or things that people just expect you to know not to do, yet aren’t written anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-and-abandoning-wrecks/118344/12 "2019-02-06T23:27:39Z")
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