# Incursions need more sites ASAP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 20, 2022, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286 "2022-11-20T14:03:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/21 "2022-11-26T00:07:03Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> requiring players to be in a structure-owning player corporation

You really come up with some ridiculous ideas. Why would you expect that for someone to run a PvE site in HS? You sound jealous of people making I$K.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/22 "2022-11-26T08:22:36Z")

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Its never been a thing Ive done since trying one when the first came out, so I figured it was just flat pay outs.

So its contested on how quick you can clear the NPCs, not an actual fight between contestants.

Ah well.

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**Author:** ![Maeltstome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maeltstome/32/341767_2.png) [@Maeltstome](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maeltstome)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/23 "2022-11-26T14:17:38Z")

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You could put 10 fleets into 1 incursion. The fleet that “wins” (done by killing blows i thinks) gets 100% of the payout, split between the fleet members. The other fleets get nothing.

those 10 fleets mean the site is cleared FAST… but it also means that most of them get nothing. You only need to be better than the next-best fleet to win. You don’t need to be better than all the fleets combined.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/24 "2022-11-26T15:45:01Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> not an actual fight between contestants

IT’S PVP MAN!!! GET IT RIGHT!!!

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/25 "2022-11-26T15:49:08Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/1/6/c16c4e2148572d103a994649f29ef5c694b06766.png)

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/26 "2022-11-26T16:02:18Z")

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The solution feels simple, go to low sec and null where there are empty sites :P.

And since you get a lot more income from it you can go in ships that you dont mind loosing such as hac’s.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/27 "2022-11-26T16:08:28Z")

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LOL, that’s amazing thanks for link.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/28 "2022-11-26T16:44:08Z")

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If 90% of the pilots in those ships are alts, then no one loses out.

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**Author:** ![Maeltstome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maeltstome/32/341767_2.png) [@Maeltstome](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maeltstome)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/29 "2022-11-26T17:00:22Z")

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Your reasoning is baffling. The pay-out is fixed and you’d be better having an alt mining tritanium than some weird effort to speed up sites with another fleet there.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/30 "2022-11-26T17:03:55Z")

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Ok I had been informed earlier it wasnt fixed.

I dont think Im any clearer as to how they work, not that its of any consequence to me, I was simply curious and wanting to learn more.

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**Author:** ![Maeltstome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maeltstome/32/341767_2.png) [@Maeltstome](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maeltstome)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/31 "2022-11-26T17:10:18Z")

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Go join an incursion fleet - there’s a few communities who take anyone and run a few nights a week. Eve’s got tons to offer, try everything once. #JunkLife

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/32 "2022-11-26T17:40:13Z")

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Nah, Im not Omega, and I tried it when it came out, wasnt interested. Thanks anyway.

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**Author:** ![Maeltstome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maeltstome/32/341767_2.png) [@Maeltstome](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maeltstome)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/33 "2022-11-26T17:41:13Z")

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> [@Eve Rookies Incursions (alpha & rookie friendly)](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-rookies-incursions-alpha-rookie-friendly/326791):
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> Updated on 14 May 2023 Or, as alpha and rookie friendly as we can make them for our little public vanguard incursion group! Ok, first thing’s first. If you’re relatively new to the game and are just now hearing about incursions, what are they? They’re end game PVE content that require a lot of skills, isk, and time but in return pay well in isk and LP. Incursion sites aren’t static, they’ll run for several days then despawn. When they come back up, they’re in another location. As Eve Rookies …

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/34 "2022-11-26T17:52:39Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> that’s amazing

You have a REALLY low bar for “amazing”. I’d bet the griefer is no longer playing the game.

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Nah, Im not Omega

Alpha’s should NOT be allowed to post in the forums. You’re not investing anything and certainly not contributing to the conversation. I’m sure you’ll report this though.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/35 "2022-11-26T19:33:57Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> Alpha’s should NOT be allowed to post in the forums.

I agree. If that were the rule, Id consider going back to being Omega.

But it isnt, so 😛

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/36 "2022-11-26T19:37:38Z")

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Cheers, Ill give it a look.

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**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/37 "2022-11-27T06:42:51Z")

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> [@x123xxx](#):
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> You have a REALLY low bar for “amazing”. I’d bet the griefer is no longer playing the game.

You are amazing.

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**Author:** ![x123xxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/x123xxx/32/247890_2.png) [@x123xxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/x123xxx)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/38 "2022-11-27T14:16:06Z")

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> [@ResonanceOfWar](#):
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> amazing

As are you.

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**Author:** ![Zool\_Turican](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zool_turican/32/333381_2.png) [@Zool\_Turican](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zool_Turican)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/39 "2023-01-15T16:58:40Z")

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still no change. sometimes 3 fleets have only active 1-3 sites. what a terrible design.

**CCP fault**

incursions need 2-3 times more active sites. or give us more than 1 incursion system.  
many fleets do not have enough players. end the frrustration or lose more and more players.

**2 problems are made by the incursion communitys**

1. way to expensive fits. especially 1 bill modules 🙄 in the first years all had faction ships and t2 and survived easy
2. you split little community in armor and shield. this is not smart.  
if everyone chose e.g. shield, people would have an easier time switching between fleets

many new player join incursions but dont stay. problems made by community and CCP

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/incursions-need-more-sites-asap/385286/40 "2023-01-15T17:36:43Z")

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> [@Zool\_Turican](#):
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> there are too many fleets on far too few sites
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> increases the number of active sites

back then wen i did incursions with armor fleet the meta was to do so much more DPS than the other group they just go away

i dont know if they changed this because there is a long time

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