# "Injectors are meant for newbies" - then why can my 100 million SP toon use them? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202 "2019-08-16T18:50:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/21 "2019-08-16T23:04:53Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Who are you to determine how and where someone uses their money? Can you quote where I said _anything_ like that? Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/22 "2019-08-16T23:25:30Z")
_50,000,000 skill points will receive 400,000 unallocated skill points._ I personally would not use a skill injector on my pilot once he reaches something close to 50M ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/23 "2019-08-17T01:06:39Z")
to key to someone injecting to max skills is the one part. After 80 mil SP an injector saves about 2 days of training not really that much for the isk. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/24 "2019-08-17T02:38:30Z")
It’s called an implication. You are Implying that someone who has more skill points has some kind of an advantage over those who have less. I’m not sure where you are getting this idea, but if you think that’s the case, my only response is “lmao, you must be new, welcome to EVE.” ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/25 "2019-08-17T03:17:00Z")
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/26 "2019-08-17T03:17:55Z")
Understanding how to play the game isn’t your’s is it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/27 "2019-08-17T03:19:07Z")
Just said the first thing that came to mind with that one, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/28 "2019-08-17T03:21:13Z")
Mostly it’s due to the fact that you are displaying symptoms of “bad player”. Like when you imply that total SP actually means anything in-game other than your misconceived notions of what the game is or how it works. You’ve still conveniently ignored all three of the questions I asked. Most likely because you do have that extra brain cell that has made you realize “oh snap, he’s right, just a sole amount of SP doesn’t actually mean anything in EVE Online.” But admitting that would run counter to the point of your thread, so you can’t admit that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/29 "2019-08-17T03:25:02Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Like when you imply that total SP actually means anything in-game Just because you say someone “implied” something, doesn’t make your straw man any less of a straw man. But please, feel free to whine more about irrelevant things I never said. > [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > You’ve still conveniently ignored all three of the questions I asked. Sorry, they were irrelevant and you’re a B rate troll, so why would I bother? Try harder. Not responding to you further - go ■■■■ up someone else’s thread. Bye. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/30 "2019-08-17T03:25:57Z")
It was done with isk. Not real money. And was a publicity stunt by the iwantisk owner. Showing how much isk people wasted on the casinos that used to exist. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/31 "2019-08-17T03:27:41Z")
Thanks for clarifying. That’s pretty ridiculous. $28,000 USD worth of ISK? That’s insane. Takes me back to the SOMER Blink days and all the drama around that. EDIT: What if CCP introduced an in-game casino/gambling mechanic that dropped skins and other cosmetic items? Could be a useful ISK sink. Casino would only be open during certain hours of certain days. Wonder what the legality of that would be? ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/32 "2019-08-17T03:28:00Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > But please, feel free to whine more about irrelevant things I never said. You are _MORE_ than welcome to explain your position if you think I’ve mischaracterized your stance. Because I would love to hear how you want to clarify your bad player whining and complaints about SP. > [@Xuixien](#): > > Sorry, they were irrelevant and you’re a B rate troll, so why would I bother? Try harder. Not responding to you further - go ■■■■ up someone else’s thread. Bye. 🙂 Still dodging the questions I asked. Seems like asking challenging questions is beyond your capacity. At least this is enough to show that you have the brain cells to realize that your position doesn’t hold merit if actually challenged. > [@Nevyn\_Auscent](#): > > And was a publicity stunt by the iwantisk owner. Yeah, this is true. IIRC, it was a guy named IronB4nk (IronBank) (?) or something along those lines, who did it just for publicity’s sake. I don’t believe that specific character ever did anything other than merely inject all that SP. I don’t understand why the OP is so afraid of a publicity stunt though. He still hasn’t explained how it affects him or the rest of his gameplay. He’s just afraid of this “thing” that can possibly happen. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/33 "2019-08-17T04:59:58Z")
Because in many respects, you are still a noob. Sorry. Couldn’t resist. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/34 "2019-08-17T05:37:32Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Casino/Gambling Are dirty words in gaming now. And particularly not going to happen in an Icelandic based game
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**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/35 "2019-08-17T07:33:34Z")
And then biomassed for fun. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/36 "2019-08-17T08:17:01Z")
Christ what dullness ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/37 "2019-08-17T15:39:02Z")
at higher sp it comes down to like 700-800m for 150k sp which means you need to do lots of grinding ---
**Author:** ![Commander\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/commander_kane/32/199755_2.png) [@Commander\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Commander_Kane)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2019, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/38 "2019-08-17T16:12:41Z")
Does it really matter? I mean I am new and I got 90mil SP. Granted I am an old player with alot of isk but injectors are the only reason I am back as I could not see myself skilling into 90mil sp again slowly over the next couple of years. Also
 So what? New players wants to spend money let them
 They make good isk kills. ---
**Author:** ![TYRANNATOR\_I1I](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tyrannator_i1i/32/381994_2.png) [@TYRANNATOR\_I1I](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TYRANNATOR_I1I)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/39 "2019-08-18T13:23:47Z")
@Commander_Kane Welcome back!!🚀đŸȘâ­ ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202/40 "2019-08-18T17:59:44Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Casino would only be open during certain hours of certain days This doesnt work with an always-online Single-shard MMO, btw. > [@Butt\_Cigar](#): > > And then biomassed for fun. He was banned, i think. For RMT. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/injectors-are-meant-for-newbies-then-why-can-my-100-million-sp-toon-use-them/183202.md?page=3)