# Inquiry: is there bad blood between Electus Matari and Ushra'khan? **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [July 31, 2018, 2:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941 "2018-07-31T02:50:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/41 "2018-07-31T11:30:15Z")
> [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](#): > > The deal she’d made _before_ that. So if a previous deal fell through why would any slaves be transported to the location indicated in a now defunct agreement? ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/42 "2018-07-31T11:30:28Z")
Not like I need to continue justifying things, but I didn’t have the authority to make the initial deal, as I later found out. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/43 "2018-07-31T11:32:00Z")
> [@Kalaratiri](#): > > So if a previous deal fell through why would any slaves be transported to the location indicated in a now defunct agreement? From. From the location. ---
**Author:** ![Ioannis\_Sepphiros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ioannis_sepphiros/32/380131_2.png) [@Ioannis\_Sepphiros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ioannis_Sepphiros)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/44 "2018-07-31T11:33:23Z")
> [@Mizhir](#): > > Have I managed to corner you so much that you have resorted to taking my words out of context? Where are the walls of text? Or the carefully constructed sentences with every word delicately placed? I am sure you would like cornering me anywhere but please lets not overhype my capacity to see when someone tries to provoke instead of purposefully discussing. And by gods I dont want to further drag this thread out of context. You seem to be doing a good job of that. With that said, I do sincerely hope the freed slaves find a home. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhir/32/379234_2.png) [@Mizhir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhir)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/45 "2018-07-31T11:38:54Z")
Putting the blame on me now? I do believe that questioning your motivation behind the question was on topic, to which your reply was nothing but a passive aggressive snark. ---
**Author:** ![Utari\_Onzo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/utari_onzo/32/378493_2.png) [@Utari\_Onzo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Utari_Onzo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/46 "2018-07-31T11:41:21Z")
Respectfully to the two conversations, what have any of these tangents got to do with the quesion at hand? Seriously, my eyes hurt just looking at this place. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/47 "2018-07-31T11:49:50Z")
Lesson learned: The capsuleers of New Eden hate each other with almost the same passion they hold for going off-topic. If the OP wants to know anything more, please contact one of us via personal message. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/48 "2018-07-31T11:56:46Z")
> [@Isha\_Vuld](#): > > Lesson learned: The capsuleers of New Eden hate each other with almost the same passion they hold for going off-topic. This might be the most truthful thing ever written on these boards. Also, if I were to personify U’K and EM for Makoto, I would say U’K is like Mizhara; abrasive and often unpopular, while EM is like its most famous face Elsebeth; diplomatic and quiet. As for how those two personalities have interacted over the years, you only have to take a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/49 "2018-07-31T12:21:04Z")
Funnily enough, Elsebeth is a friend of mine. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/50 "2018-07-31T12:22:29Z")
Do you always agree? ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/51 "2018-07-31T12:23:39Z")
Almost always… once Elsebeth has had enough time to realize that her southerner ways are never a match for the northern truths. ---
**Author:** ![Kalaratiri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalaratiri/32/477189_2.png) [@Kalaratiri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalaratiri)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/52 "2018-07-31T12:24:15Z")
You’re kind of making my point for me here. ---
**Author:** ![Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mizhara_del_thul/32/486150_2.png) [@Mizhara\_Del\_thul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mizhara_Del_thul)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/53 "2018-07-31T12:24:49Z")
Wasn’t disagreeing with it in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/54 "2018-07-31T12:56:38Z")
U’K is obsessed with fulfilling a vendetta first and foremost, -EM- is about the betterment of our Republic first and vendetta second. ---
**Author:** ![nebuan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nebuan/32/257332_2.png) [@nebuan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/nebuan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/55 "2018-07-31T13:48:14Z")
If you want to know about ushra’khan then talk to us directly. ---
**Author:** ![Deitra\_Vess](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/deitra_vess/32/249726_2.png) [@Deitra\_Vess](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Deitra_Vess)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/56 "2018-07-31T14:02:31Z")
I’m familiar with U’K, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/57 "2018-07-31T14:35:39Z")
Insofar as the freed slaves are concerned, our plan remains to turn them over to the care of Khaprice Heska’s Aesir Arcology, and to provide such additional aid as is needed given the degree of the humanitarian crisis. This is, as you all might know, in keeping with our previously-announced intent. As is simply reasonable, a word once given should be kept, as much as possible. While from further discussion it sounds like we should pursue a closer relationship with Electus Matari, that is a thing for the future. ---
**Author:** ![Isha\_Vuld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isha_vuld/32/470113_2.png) [@Isha\_Vuld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isha_Vuld)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/58 "2018-07-31T15:01:17Z")
Thank you for ensuring the liberty of our brothers and sisters. I wouldn’t worry too much about the politics. As long as the slaves are free to pursue new lives in the end I don’t care who they are transferred to, and I doubt many true Matari would. ---
**Author:** ![Literia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/literia/32/491152_2.png) [@Literia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Literia)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/59 "2018-07-31T15:49:41Z")
Those people are still in my care that I have received most of them are traumatized from their stay with Nauplius so it takes some time to help them understand that they arent in danger anymore. Some of the women I would say about 65% still remain in my custody. However the one thing that is apparently with people who come from Nauplius is that they need a special kinda of help to have them to learn to trust again. ---
**Author:** ![Makoto\_Priano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makoto_priano/32/383919_2.png) [@Makoto\_Priano](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makoto_Priano)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941/60 "2018-07-31T18:08:15Z")
Oh, and I’ve realized I omitted a detail that was relevant to all of this. The suggestion that the refugees be repatriated to EM instead of U’K came from a Matari loyalist; while it wasn’t overt, the omission of U’K on the list of recommended organizations was what prompted the question, as it suggested internal politics I wasn’t aware of. Essentially, that’s to say, “Is there bad blood?” isn’t an unfounded attempt to stir things up, but instead a question based on the words of a Matari loyalist. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/inquiry-is-there-bad-blood-between-electus-matari-and-ushrakhan/93941.md?page=4)