# Instant Corruption In The CSM

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294>\
**Category:** Jita Park\
**Created:** [June 7, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294 "2018-06-07T16:08:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/21 "2018-06-07T18:01:53Z")

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Offering iskies for votes is not a violation? An answer from CCP to clarify would be a good start.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/22 "2018-06-07T18:12:03Z")

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Before an Election of any kind.  
 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/4/c4712623e544cd2d962ae2404c40cbbd95f11c8c.jpg)  
After an Election of any kind.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/23 "2018-06-07T18:13:38Z")

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Don’t worry too much. CSM is pretty useless so i could not care less about their small tricks and games.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_ayeipsia/32/23528_2.png) [@Lady\_Ayeipsia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Ayeipsia)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/24 "2018-06-07T18:21:43Z")

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> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#):
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> Offering iskies for votes is not a violation? An answer from CCP to clarify would be a good start.

A violation of what?

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**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/25 "2018-06-07T18:23:43Z")

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Never mind you have just answered my question.

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**Author:** ![Toxic\_Yaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/toxic_yaken/32/382143_2.png) [@Toxic\_Yaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Toxic_Yaken)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/26 "2018-06-07T18:51:01Z")

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Man, I can’t believe this alt who probably isn’t The Judge would do this. Unbelievable!

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**Author:** ![Imustbecomfused](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/imustbecomfused/32/140896_2.png) [@Imustbecomfused](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Imustbecomfused)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/27 "2018-06-07T18:55:41Z")

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facepalm

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**Author:** ![Algarion\_Getz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/algarion_getz/32/356396_2.png) [@Algarion\_Getz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Algarion_Getz)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/28 "2018-06-07T19:32:19Z")

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> [@Evasive\_Shadow\_Assassin](#):
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> Not to mention the clear disrespect to Alpha players 🙂

Only with Omega state you can vote.

That includes SP farmers, who can cast hundreds of votes …

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/29 "2018-06-07T20:56:58Z")

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> [@Algarion\_Getz](#):
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> Only with Omega state you can vote.
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> That includes SP farmers, who can cast hundreds of votes …

It is half the reason why elections like this aren’t really elections in the first place but who can garner the most backup within the time limit.

Now if your vote was limited by something a bit better like actual in game time investment in earning the right to vote…

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**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/30 "2018-06-08T19:53:33Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Now if your vote was limited by something a bit better like actual in game time investment in earning the right to vote…

Service guarantees Citizenship. Do you want to know more?

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/31 "2018-06-08T20:34:40Z")

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> [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](#):
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> Service guarantees Citizenship. Do you want to know more?

Yes and no… Faction Warfare gets 2 seats, w-space gets 2, remainders can be earned in game by alliances. Can only be in ONE of those seats per alliance. Unlike how we can get more than 2 attached to one group currently…

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**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/32 "2018-06-08T20:38:26Z")

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Yeah… high sec is f’ed.

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/33 "2018-06-08T20:39:24Z")

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> [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](#):
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> Yeah… high sec is f’ed.

High sec is always f’ed. Always has been since the original days.

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**Author:** ![Xenuria](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xenuria/32/264531_2.png) [@Xenuria](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xenuria)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/34 "2018-06-08T21:29:37Z")

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I will never pay for votes. I actually pushed for the buying of votes to be banned during my term as a CSM.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/35 "2018-06-09T00:03:42Z")

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The Judge has stated that this isn’t him, and I think he’s a bit too smart for something this obviously useless - there’s zero way to verify who has voted for whom after you click “submit vote.” That’s intended to stop something like this from happening in the first place.

It’s a hoax.

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**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/36 "2018-06-09T19:01:39Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> there’s zero way to verify who has voted for whom after you click “submit vote.”

Really? I was thinking that CCP would be able to find out…

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/37 "2018-06-09T20:40:50Z")

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> [@Evasive\_Shadow\_Assassin](#):
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> I never vote, not one of these CSM candidates gives two shits about the player base, they just care about getting “famous”

You’re right about most of them, but there are some that truly want to make the game better. Steve’s one of the latter.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/38 "2018-06-10T17:37:50Z")

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You understand my point, right?

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**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/39 "2018-06-10T21:21:28Z")

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> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#):
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> You understand my point, right?

Yes I do.

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**Author:** ![MinerArt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/minerart/32/33728_2.png) [@MinerArt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MinerArt)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instant-corruption-in-the-csm/81294/40 "2018-06-14T23:44:31Z")

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> [@MinerArt](#):
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> Unlike how we can get more than 2 attached to one group currently…

Nothing like having a variety of representatives from multiple factions… Oh wait…

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/f/cfde1d4ff0ae5184ec7809e41f73fdda0dda48b1.png)

Nevermind.

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