# InstaWarp vs. InstaLock **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [February 11, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587 "2018-02-11T05:15:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/1 "2018-02-11T05:15:42Z")
Was trying to help an Alpha guy who was curious about how to escape either it’s possible or not in ceptor vs. null sec gate camp. So question is how do actually locking + tracking +(flight time of the ammo and here I’m kinda confused if there are any flight time should be counted for projectiles and hybrids). So his align and warp is 2.1 sec. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/2 "2018-02-11T06:47:11Z")
Not sure what you want to know + prove, but a couple of things. Guns apply their damage instant when activated, flight time is only relevant for launchers. How is this related to gate camps? The point of a camp is to warp disrupt the target before it can warp. The magic number here is 2s align time, because of the tick mechanic. With 2.1s align you are in warp after 3s … or not, because you are dead in any competent camp. If you can manage to be in warp within 2s, you can only be caught in exceptional cases. Finally, Alphas and ceptors? ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/3 "2018-02-11T06:50:22Z")
Yeah sorry, called him Alpha but meant to be a greenhorn. He is flying Maeldiciton [https://zkillboard.com/character/2112306259/losses/](https://zkillboard.com/character/2112306259/losses/) and keep dying in null. So kinda trying to catch both monkies. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/4 "2018-02-11T06:58:48Z")
Sub 2s align, and he should be fine. However dying to another solo ceptor or other explorers is another beast. Always keep an eye on the overview, highlight a warp out before you start hacking, color other player ships … so as soon as your “signal color” pops up, click warp. EDIT: … and never fit an AB, but use MWDs, you want to be fast in case. For example if you are landing outside docking range, 1s of MWD safes you, crashing the gate is another example, and not to mention flying between cans in a hacking site. ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/5 "2018-02-11T07:33:37Z")
thx, i’ll try to address that points to the guy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/6 "2018-02-11T10:00:57Z")
Malediction - travel mid slot: medium azethropic warp shield extender 2x em warp field II low slot: damage control 2 3x inertia stabilizers rigs: 2x low friction nozzle joints 2 Align time should be 1.88s and this should even hold if you run into a smartbomb camp. ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/7 "2018-02-11T10:02:41Z")
yeah but he wants to do relic or data sites 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/8 "2018-02-11T10:03:28Z")
Then he should fly an Astero or bring a depot with relic analyzer. ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/9 "2018-02-11T10:11:19Z")
you knew if there is a built with \< than 1s align time? ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/10 "2018-02-11T10:14:24Z")
No ship in EVE can do below 1 second. There was a thread in the old forums with an article about align times, insta-locks and server ticks. Everything that warps sub 2s should be fine unless the insta-locker lives in London and has an internet ping of sub 5ms. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/11 "2018-02-11T10:15:41Z")
yes there is a ship that warps sub 1s. Its name starts with “hec-” and finished with “-ate”. You need an implant though. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/12 "2018-02-11T10:18:26Z")
The question was about a Malediction. However I could get a Jackdaw to 1.22s. ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/13 "2018-02-11T10:22:53Z")
yeah kind of crazy build u prob never undock and fly but still it’s exist, check the stats lol i can’t belive it [Hecate, Hecate fit] Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers IFFA Compact Damage Control Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints II Low-grade Nomad Alpha Low-grade Nomad Beta Low-grade Nomad Gamma Mid-grade Nomad Delta Low-grade Nomad Epsilon Mid-grade Nomad Omega Eifyr and Co. ‘Rogue’ Evasive Maneuvering EM-706 ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/14 "2018-02-11T10:24:07Z")
not just Malediction any dicition 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/15 "2018-02-11T10:46:57Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > The question was about a Malediction. your answer was not : > [@elitatwo](#): > > No ship in EVE can do below 1 second. ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/16 "2018-02-11T11:10:39Z")
I’m using this one, relic optimized, instawarp with max skills, no imps, not smartbomb-proof: [Ares, Tipa Riot’s Ares] Damage Control II Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Relic Analyzer II Scan Rangefinding Array II Core Probe Launcher II Prototype Cloaking Device I Salvager I Small Emission Scope Sharpener II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/17 "2018-02-11T12:24:14Z")
> [@Tiddle\_Jr](#): > > Was trying to help an Alpha guy who was curious about how to escape either it’s possible or not in ceptor vs. null sec gate camp > [@Tiddle\_Jr](#): > > So his align and warp is 2.1 sec. > [@Tiddle\_Jr](#): > > called him Alpha but meant to be a greenhorn. He is flying Maeldiciton > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > Sub 2s align, and he should be fine. > [@elitatwo](#): > > Malediction - travel > > mid slot: > > medium azethropic warp shield extender 2x > > em warp field II > > low slot: > > damage control 2 > > 3x inertia stabilizers > > rigs: > > 2x low friction nozzle joints 2 > > Align time should be 1.88s In that order. ---
**Author:** ![Tiddle\_Jr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiddle_jr/32/469145_2.png) [@Tiddle\_Jr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiddle_Jr)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/18 "2018-02-12T01:00:47Z")
too much of meee… ---
**Author:** ![Zhilia\_Mann](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhilia_mann/32/214674_2.png) [@Zhilia\_Mann](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhilia_Mann)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/19 "2018-02-12T01:15:12Z")
You don’t need the nomads on that fit at all. Even without, and downgrading to an EM-705, you get 0.985. It’s still not how I’d do it; those rigs aren’t buying you much. Try this: [Hecate, courier] Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Shadow Serpentis Inertial Stabilizers Inertial Stabilizers II Inertial Stabilizers II Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender Adaptive Invulnerability Field II [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Requires EM-705. Aligns in 0.996. Warps at 7.82 AU/s. Cheaper. If you’re going to make a super courier you might as well do it right. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587/20 "2018-02-12T09:18:57Z")
Since this is not interdictor nullified, it is an example doomed to fail its purpose. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instawarp-vs-instalock/56587.md?page=2)