# Instead of nerfing mining because of Orcas **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [November 12, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736 "2025-11-12T15:32:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/21 "2025-11-13T16:15:14Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](#): > > There are like fifteen gankers still active, and only half of them bother targeting miners. Highsec mining is 99% safe, so the rewards for it should be minimal. Annnnd… unless there’s a war going on, most of null is empty and safe. Hell, people said just yesterday that jumping through Low is safe because most of that is empty as well. ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/22 "2025-11-13T16:15:53Z")
> [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](#): > > Soon they will remove mining altogether from hig sec. Hisec isn’t a viable region for anything but passing through from one lowsec region to the other. Unless you want to waste your time for 38,000isk and 150LP. Nothing ever goes on in Hisec besides the occasional gank. I wouldn’t be surprised if they removed mining from Hisec. There isn’t much to mine there anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/23 "2025-11-13T16:17:23Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > It absolutely says that. Like a picture of a target that has 3 hits on it says “bad shooter” if we know that a 1.000 shots were fired to get that result. Well then show me the button that gives the percentage of ships destroyed vs not destroyed on every given day. I’ll wait. For example: 5 Hulks destroyed and 945 Hulks in game not destroyed. I want you to show me that button or your statement about simple logic will be completely meaningless. No one said anything about how many bullets were used. You’re simply desperate to show how simple-minded you are. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/24 "2025-11-13T16:26:10Z")
why have mining at all? just make EVE like world of tanks pick a ship spawn with it and PVP. I mean what´s the ■■■■■■■ point with mining and PVE anyway pointless useless ■■■■ right. And your saying Null sec is high risk haha yeah so high risk when you got 100s of people to suck your D when ever some one jumps you. Null sec players so safe they ■■■■ them self every time they met a ganker in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maria_sanzen_in/32/479635_2.png) [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maria_Sanzen_in)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/25 "2025-11-13T16:27:55Z")
So remove it make all of game null what´s the point having high sec to hell with new players just turn it all to null already and quit pussyfooting around. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/26 "2025-11-13T16:27:57Z")
You know the saying: never mess with a stupid person, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. As already said: Learn how to interpret the data zKill gives you. I truly believe you cannot do that (well, thats probably also the reason you keep mining in HS), my condolences… ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/27 "2025-11-13T16:29:40Z")
> [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](#): > > Hisec isn’t a viable region for anything but passing through from one lowsec region to the other. Unless you want to waste your time for 38,000isk and 150LP. Nothing ever goes on in Hisec besides the occasional gank. > I wouldn’t be surprised if they removed mining from Hisec. There isn’t much to mine there anyway. There’s plenty of stuff to mine. - Veldspar - Scordite - Pyroxeres - Plagioclase - Ice Fields - Zeolites - Sylvite - Bitumens - Coesite - Omber - Kernite See? Plenty of stuff to mine. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/28 "2025-11-13T16:35:10Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > You know the saying: never mess with a stupid person, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. As already said: Learn how to interpret the data zKill gives you. I truly believe you cannot do that (well, thats probably also the reason you keep mining in HS), my condolences… Well, feel free to come show me the error of my ways. I’ve lived in Null Sec before. It was dreadfully boring. Day after day after day of nothing to do all because my corp mates weren’t on when I was. Just dreadful silence, boredom, and frustration staring at that ■■■■■■■ forcefield. ■■■■ null sec. High Sec is freedom. I can do what I want, where I want, when I want. I make enough ISK to fund my hobbies. My skills are high and I own every structure I need and every ship I want. What would null sec offer that I don’t already have? ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/29 "2025-11-13T16:41:44Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > What would null sec offer that I don’t already have? Thousands ships `TiDi` battles that last 13 hours just to perform 30 minutes worth of actual in-game actions. 👀 🤭 `The Twin Paradox of EVE Online:` > [@Hard to believe after all these year](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hard-to-believe-after-all-these-year/488624/7): > > The of EVE online: One of the twins stays at home playing EVE participating in a giant battle with severe time dilation, taking 12 hours to play 30 minutes of battle. The other twin goes to a party and gets laid. The first twin had zero fun, while the other twin had a lot of fun. CCP and Nullbloc leaders: Being an F1 monkey and participating in TiDi battles is the pinnacle of EVE Online accomplishments. thinking psyccp popcorn 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/30 "2025-11-13T16:43:31Z")
Yep! Those battles … are… s…..o… …..m…….u…….c………..h……… ………..f……………..u…………….n………… Getting 1 frame every minute! I built a really nice gaming system so that I wouldn’t have to play games like that and I certainly wouldn’t devote 13 hours to a battle just so that it could be compressed down to normal speed for a 10 second fight! ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/31 "2025-11-13T16:52:51Z")
Pretty much, yeah. So remove highsec mining. Lore reason: it got mined dry and the few remaining asteroids are locked down hard by the empires. Low and null will get flooded by miners, and suddenly space won’t be so empty any more. More conflict, more fun. Null probably would end up being the much safer option, so put the less profitable ores there. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/32 "2025-11-13T16:56:25Z")
So your plan is to dry up the servers so much that the owners shut them down, eh? How do you think that plan will work out for null players who won’t be able to log on anymore? I’m genuinely curious. When this game gets shut down, how much conflict do you expect to find in null? ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/33 "2025-11-13T16:59:55Z")
Yeah, yield would need to be tuned up, since a lot of miners would realise beating up other miners and taking their ore is a lot more fun. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/34 "2025-11-13T17:01:30Z")
Have you even been to low or null sec? Seems you dont’ do much besides offer up your ships to pad the kill boards of other players. Zkillboard even has the “padded” tag over your lost ships. Maybe that’s why you don’t seem to know how null sec works. ---
**Author:** ![Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoutin_on_empty/32/479066_2.png) [@Scoutin\_On\_Empty](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoutin_On_Empty)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/35 "2025-11-13T17:01:45Z")
> [@Maria\_Sanzen\_in](#): > > So remove it make all of game null what´s the point having high sec to hell with new players just turn it all to null already and quit pussyfooting around It’s a business strategy. That’s all I will say. ---
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/36 "2025-11-13T17:08:43Z")
Sure, I do tonnes of exploration there. But I have covops and d-scan, so it’s pretty safe. Miners won’t have covops, of course, they’ll have to rely on local and d-scan to stay safe. Maybe mine in corp fleets, and have orcas with combat ships ready to fight off up to small packs of hostiles. You can pretty much ignore my zkill, I’m not a PvPer. The “padded” kills are because I think EVE Uni automatically posts kms, it’s an alt popping shuttles because I wanted to get the SP reward from AIR. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/37 "2025-11-13T17:09:25Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’ve lived in Null Sec before. It was dreadfully boring. Day after day after day of nothing to do all because my corp mates weren’t on when I was. Just dreadful silence, boredom, and frustration staring at that ■■■■■■■ forcefield. ■■■■ null sec. > > High Sec is freedom. I can do what I want, where I want, when I want. I make enough ISK to fund my hobbies. My skills are high and I own every structure I need and every ship I want. > > What would null sec offer that I don’t already have? You know you don’t have to be docked up in null sec when your corp mates aren’t on? Just go out there. Fly, do stuff. Kill NPCs, mine ore, explore. Camp a gate, chase someone. You have the freedom to undock in null sec too. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/38 "2025-11-13T17:10:26Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > Well, feel free to come show me the error of my ways ![orcas](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/5/145cd841013bdb713f9e2c4916358842e0c3eeb6.jpeg) > [@Glenduil](#): > > What would null sec offer that I don’t already have? No ideas, I don’t advocate going into nullsec. I just say “HS is 99.99% safe” (if you aren’t stupid). And for that level of safety, it pays _incredibly_ well. At the top end even way too good in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/39 "2025-11-13T17:32:57Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > ![orcas](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/4/5/145cd841013bdb713f9e2c4916358842e0c3eeb6.jpeg) So what we see here is at least 45 Orcas on one grid in one high sec system. There are multiple sites per system, are over a thousand high sec systems. On the other hand, the amount of Orcas that died last 90 days in HS is 152. The amount of Orcas in HS that dies compared to the Orcas in HS that are in use is miniscule. A rounding error. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/40 "2025-11-13T17:35:50Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > The amount of Orcas in HS that dies compared to the Orcas in HS that are in use is miniscule. A rounding error. Thats the point he does not understand. There are _hundreds_ (at least) of Orcas and _thousands_ of mining ships around in HS _every day_. The amount of them being “ganked” is less than half a percent… So on average you can mine for around a _YEAR_ and grab whatever you can get your hands on before losing a single ship for the first time. Calling that _dangerous_ is ridiculous. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736.md?page=3)