# Instead of nerfing mining because of Orcas **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining & Extraction\ **Created:** [November 12, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736 "2025-11-12T15:32:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/synthetic_infomorph/32/489149_2.png) [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Synthetic_Infomorph)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/41 "2025-11-13T17:39:14Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > So on average you can mine for around a _YEAR_ and grab whatever you can get your hands on before losing a single ship for the first time. Calling that _dangerous_ is ridiculous. Well, most of those miners aren’t making a big fuss out of this and making themselves targets for gankers, or at least they do so on alts. Gankers who target miners don’t generally do so for profit (not a lot of them fit ORE miners), but to provoke a funny reaction. Highsec is a lot more dangerous for miners like Glenduil than it is for anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/42 "2025-11-13T17:45:32Z")
I can do all of that here. He’ll if I wanted to get really crazy, I could buy and sacrifice battleships against mining barges all day. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/43 "2025-11-13T17:47:23Z")
Of course you can do all that in HS space too! But null sec has better exploration sites, stronger NPCs to fight, better moons to mine and best of all - no silly CONCORD rules to interfere with your PvP fun. Why even settle for a HS life when you can have fun outside HS? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/44 "2025-11-13T18:02:16Z")
Because I’ve been to null sec and hated it. I’ve also read recent reddit posts about how null sec corps like to restrict mining of the good ores to the high ranking members of a corp which leaves the ores you’d find in high sec to everyone else. I’m terrible at following orders. 8 years in the military and all these years obeying my boss at my job will sour the prospect of following orders in a video game. I don’t get paid to play Eve. There’s a reason I’m in my own corp. There’s a reason I bought my own Orca and my own Athanor. I know this is a multiplayer game and I don’t mind sharing my moon ore with other miners. I’ll even invite them into my fleet and grant them Orca bonuses. I’ve done it before and I’m sure I’ll do it again. But I won’t follow orders. Hell, I’ve never even stayed long in one place. I’ve had a home in Minmitar, Gallente, and Amarr. Right now, I’m somewhere in-between states. Not quite Amarr, but not quite Caldari. Null sec has territories. Not quite my cup of tea. My playstyle just doesn’t match. I tried it. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/45 "2025-11-13T18:09:50Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’m terrible at following orders. Explains why you haven’t fulfilled @Zaera_Keena’s order to send her 1 bil ISK. 🤔 :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/46 "2025-11-13T18:10:55Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’ve also read recent reddit posts about how null sec corps like to restrict mining of the good ores to the high ranking members of a corp which leaves the ores you’d find in high sec to everyone else. That’s the first time I hear of such a thing. It doesn’t happen in my alliance and if it happened in any alliance that mattered we’d all laugh and point at them, so if this is happening anywhere it’s probably one obscure small group nobody knows about. > [@Glenduil](#): > > Because I’ve been to null sec and hated it. Yea, I’d hate it too if I didn’t dare to undock when others aren’t online. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/47 "2025-11-13T18:13:00Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Yea, I’d hate it too if I didn’t dare to undock when others aren’t online. Oh boy, shots fired! Someone call `555-CONCORD` right now. 🤔 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/48 "2025-11-13T18:19:25Z")
If there’s something strange In your neighborhood Who you gonna call? **Clownbusters** ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/49 "2025-11-13T19:31:45Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > So on average you can mine for around a _YEAR_ and grab whatever you can get your hands on before losing a single ship for the first time. Calling that _dangerous_ is ridiculous. But you need to be smart about it. It is mostly new clueless players who are mining or travelling in cargo expanded fit+rigs that are getting ganked. And for these players that loss is gamebreaking for sure. On the other hand those who are using brick-tank fit with high-grade crystal implants, maybe in an EDENCOM system even, are basically ungankable even if all gankers joined together. Orca balancing problem is that the mining efficiency is not dependant on modules and rigs that much. So going for max tank fit does not impact yield almost at all compared to barges/exhumers. It has too much armor and hull HP too. Sure drones probably count as a fit, but other than Harvesters which almost nobody use, they are cheap enough and differences are small enough to not matter. ---
**Author:** ![Aenean\_Panacan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aenean_panacan/32/480177_2.png) [@Aenean\_Panacan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aenean_Panacan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/50 "2025-11-13T19:36:43Z")
> [@Synthetic\_Infomorph](#): > > Gankers who target miners don’t generally do so for profit Competition for profit sweetheart 😘 What a surprise!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_ex-girlfriend/32/429252_2.png) [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Ex-Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/51 "2025-11-13T19:41:47Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > I’ve also read recent reddit posts about how null sec corps like to restrict mining of the good ores to the high ranking members of a corp which leaves the ores you’d find in high sec to everyone else. People who are mining moons don’t want you stealing their ore, because they have plans for that ore beyond padding their wallets. Takes a lot of moon goo to build in nullsec. Yes, some alliances divvy up systems to each corp they have, but a lot of that is to prevent infighting. Clearly, corps who contribute more to the alliance get better systems, I certainly wouldn’t give someone as risk averse as you are access to a -0.9, you’d tank the indexes and waste a valuable system. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/52 "2025-11-13T20:00:01Z")
> [@Your\_Ex-Girlfriend](#): > > Clearly, corps who contribute more to the alliance get better systems, I certainly wouldn’t give someone as risk averse as you are access to a -0.9, you’d tank the indexes and waste a valuable system. I love how you can’t have a discussion without petty insults. 🙂 Good to know things never change. As for risk adverse, come show me what real risk is. My home is the Palas System. I don’t mind visitors. Besides, anyone can simply fly low budget ships in Null all day. Not much risk in losing those ships even in Null, is there? Is that was passes for Risk in Null sec these days? Losing a 5 million ISK ship and maybe a zero implant Pod or two? Hell, I can do that. Let me jump into a pod without any implants and head out to Null tonight a few times so I can experience this “risk” factor like you do. I’ll see how close I can get to -0.9 ZS-2LT Feythabolis ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/53 "2025-11-13T22:21:30Z")
Why are you talking to others about risk when you hide in a high sec system? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/54 "2025-11-13T22:31:48Z")
I’m not in HS at the moment. ![2025.11.13.22.30.57](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/7/b/b7b60873083d857114577e20c31c4167a0cd3fbf.jpeg) That’s null AND I gave my location. I don’t hide from anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/55 "2025-11-13T22:40:53Z")
Destination reached. Look at me taking risks ![2025.11.13.22.40.25](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/2/7/527b4cf0d3fa36cc24fd96bd8f5585194edbaaec.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/56 "2025-11-13T22:41:31Z")
Big risk flying that Pacifier through null without nullifier, all cloaked up and in empty null sec space. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/57 "2025-11-13T22:42:21Z")
Don’t be bitter. You wanted me to fly in Null. What? Did you think I’d really fly a 3 bil ship here? LOL! This is what risk looks like in Null after all. You were right! I am in way more danger right now than I was mining in HS! ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/58 "2025-11-13T22:43:44Z")
Hey, I even admitted you were taking extra risks by not flying nullified! But you were the one saying you were in a 0.5 system, not me. Nice to see you’re also leaving the safety of CONCORD behind. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/59 "2025-11-13T22:47:18Z")
Well, I’m only here until I can no longer stand the boredom. Then I’ll head back to HS. I’m 30+ jumps through null. I wanted to make it count. As for nullification- not my style. I love the Pacifier! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/instead-of-nerfing-mining-because-of-orcas/500736/60 "2025-11-13T22:54:10Z")
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