# Into The Abyss: First Impressions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227 "2018-05-29T11:38:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dotar\_Sojat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dotar_sojat/32/169344_2.png) [@Dotar\_Sojat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dotar_Sojat)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/61 "2018-05-29T19:46:23Z")

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It sounds like the perfect time to hunt explorers…

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/62 "2018-05-29T19:54:01Z")

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LOL, losing a 628 million ISK Ishtar to PvE. You might as well have plotted a course for Uedama and put it on autopilot…

> **[Ishtar | Kern Walzky | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70258951/)**
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> Kern Walzky (Corporation Danmark) lost their Ishtar in Puevf (Ora) Total Value: 831,168,296.03 ISK

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/63 "2018-05-29T19:55:01Z")

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How do you probes those traces?? I see them on dscan, but not in combat probe window? How??

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**Author:** ![Khan\_Wrenth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khan_wrenth/32/14130_2.png) [@Khan\_Wrenth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khan_Wrenth)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/64 "2018-05-29T19:57:33Z")

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Is it possible there’s a filter in effect, that is preventing you from seeing the result?

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**Author:** ![Terranid\_Meester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terranid_meester/32/425207_2.png) [@Terranid\_Meester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terranid_Meester)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/65 "2018-05-29T19:58:09Z")

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They can’t be probed.

Welcome to safe pve.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/66 "2018-05-29T19:58:32Z")

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Make that a 2 BILLION ISK Ishtar lost to the Abyss…

> **[Ishtar | Ronni Zigman | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/70255302/)**
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> Ronni Zigman (Birdsquad) lost their Ishtar in Fretrl (Fgrir) Total Value: 2,073,887,203.06 ISK

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/67 "2018-05-29T19:59:17Z")

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Lol, they forgot to implement the most important feature

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/68 "2018-05-29T20:00:42Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> How do you probes those traces?? I see them on dscan, but not in combat probe window? How??

People reported that CCP made them unprobable in the end…

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/69 "2018-05-29T20:01:09Z")

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Ishtars are probably the worst ship you can bring into the Abyssal pockets. Man, I’m just flying through these. The last pocket I completed in 4:55 flat (that’s all 3 rooms).

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/70 "2018-05-29T20:04:56Z")

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LOL, judging by the Abyss killmails I’ve seen on Zkill so far, you might as well just load up a Charon with 2 billion ISK worth of cargo and put it on autopilot to Uedama or Niarja. You’ll have about as much chance of not getting popped…

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/71 "2018-05-29T20:05:35Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> LOL, judging by the Abyss killmails I’ve seen on Zkill so far, you might as well just load up a Charon with 2 billion ISK worth of cargo and put it on autopilot to Uedama or Niarja. You’ll have about as much chance of not getting popped…

Hey, I tried to warn people and get them to read the guides and threads… It wasn’t like some of us tested this and posted our feedback.

Well, first Abyssal pocket crash under OSX on entry. Let’s see how badly I got hooped when re-logging.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/72 "2018-05-29T20:06:12Z")

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I found THREE filaments in a single data site. Hell yeah!

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/73 "2018-05-29T20:06:34Z")

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Yes we know whats up don’t expect easy fights inside.

IF CCP made these filaments available off npcs we’d have so many more dead suckers,they missed a chance in a lifetime!

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/74 "2018-05-29T20:09:11Z")

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> [@Dark\_Engraver](#):
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> Yes we know whats up don’t expect easy fights inside.

A fool and his Ishtar(s) are soon parted.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/75 "2018-05-29T20:09:21Z")

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LOL, holy crap, some poor bastage lost 7 BILLION ISK between his pod and ship…

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/76 "2018-05-29T20:09:22Z")

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Man so much scanning and still nothing… lovely first day 😕

My guess:

CCP1: We ready to launch lets launch guys!  
CCP2: Wait! what if players get so much loot and have a blast and then all the loot gets devalued and costs nothing.  
CCP1: Then we decrease the drop chance, in a few days when we see how it goes.  
CCP2: TOO LATE LETS DO IT NOW!  
CCP1: Hmm ok so would you like me to add an extra 0 to the 0.1%?  
CCP2:…  
CCP1: 2 0’s??  
CCP2: go on…  
CCP1: 3 0’s? 0.0001%?  
CCP2: making progress now.  
CCP1: But no one will ever get any loot?  
CCP2: Exactly 😃 then it cant devalue! 😃 besides we can always increase it afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/77 "2018-05-29T20:10:34Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> LOL, holy crap, some poor bastage lost 7 BILLION ISK between his pod and ship…

And I’m sure we ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Cool: When I warped back after the client crashed the timer disappeared **and** didn’t consume my filament.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/78 "2018-05-29T20:13:33Z")

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Just found two filaments in a single can.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/79 "2018-05-29T20:14:34Z")

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So hurry up and go use them and lose a few billion ISK worth of ships…

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/80 "2018-05-29T20:15:36Z")

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> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#):
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> Man so much scanning and still nothing… lovely first day

Yeah isn’t it?

“Guys, we have this truly amazing and great new content for you”.  
Players don’t believe it  
“No really, it will be good. We will test it and it will be great.”  
Players slowly start to listen  
“There will be many dev blogs and dates on SiSi and all that. We’ll make sure it’s a new chapter in EVE”  
Some start to smile, hoping that things might be good  
…  
time passes  
tests happen  
feedback is given  
thanks are spoken  
…  
Fast forward to Patchday  
“Lol, owned, run Data Sites you morons”

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