# Into The Abyss: First Impressions

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227 "2018-05-29T11:38:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_C0ld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/captain_c0ld/32/471894_2.png) [@Captain\_C0ld](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Captain_C0ld)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/81 "2018-05-29T20:16:26Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> LOL, holy crap, some poor bastage lost 7 BILLION ISK between his pod and ship…

That would be the Cerberus guy. And this is Day 1, imagine how it will look in a week…

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/82 "2018-05-29T20:16:45Z")

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I mean at least CCP never fails to disappoint.

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**Author:** ![Fzhal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fzhal/32/56283_2.png) [@Fzhal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fzhal)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/83 "2018-05-29T20:17:30Z")

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Should have stocked up on pirate and T2 cruisers! I love how many stupid people didn’t check the forums before doing these!

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/84 "2018-05-29T20:17:47Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> I mean at least CCP never fails to disappoint.

Players are getting filaments from Relic sites, so this is par for the course with CCP.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/85 "2018-05-29T20:20:08Z")

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> [@Arthur\_Aihaken](#):
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> Players are getting filaments from Relic sites, so this is par for the course.

I’ve done roughly 40 Data and 20+ Relic Sites without any Filament. Good for those who find one, but that doesn’t make things right. This is a stupid mechanic, because it only delays access to the sites for a part of the players who actively seek to participate and it is meaningless in the long run.

It’s just awefully bad game design, totally unnessecary and really a pity for the _great_ content _inside_ AD (my opinion from perma-testing on SiSi)

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/86 "2018-05-29T20:22:04Z")

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And if you thought those ship and pod losses were brutal - wait until players start sharing their mutaplasmid Officer module horror stories.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/87 "2018-05-29T20:22:12Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> I’ve done roughly 40 Data and 20+ Relic Sites without any Filament.

Damn, you must be doing something wrong? I’ve found 5 after only a few hours.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/88 "2018-05-29T20:24:06Z")

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Sarcasm xD? 5 after a few hours holy crap that’s bad drop rate. I think im going to stop scanning for them and wait 2 weeks till the drop rates get changed ant nobody got time for this xD

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/89 "2018-05-29T20:32:26Z")

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Man, it is going to take me forever to farm enough Isogen-10 and Zero-Point Condensate to build a Leshak battleship (almost 1000 of each).

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/90 "2018-05-29T20:33:08Z")

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Tier 4/5’s drop 350 still or its changed since Sisi?

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/91 "2018-05-29T20:33:26Z")

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Well, I didn’t get any on the F3 filaments that I ran.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/92 "2018-05-29T20:34:22Z")

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The ship is not really that good so not sure anyone will pay the rediculas prices they will cost for the first few weeks.

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/93 "2018-05-29T20:34:46Z")

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it wont. You need to wait for the long term.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/94 "2018-05-29T20:36:32Z")

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> [@Ember\_Fireheart](#):
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> Sarcasm xD? 5 after a few hours holy crap that’s bad drop rate. I think im going to stop scanning for them and wait 2 weeks till the drop rates get changed ant nobody got time for this xD

I’ve sold 3 already at 200m each, waiting for the other 2 to sell. So 1b from two hours of scanning is nice.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/95 "2018-05-29T20:37:03Z")

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wow not bad considering they should cost 1-5mil each xD from how often they droped on Sisi.

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/96 "2018-05-29T20:38:20Z")

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“There’s a sucker born every minute.” - P. T. Barnum

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/97 "2018-05-29T20:39:26Z")

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Well their price will probably drop over the next few days. I think they’ll end up in the 20m-50m range, which is the point where explorers will feel compelled to hack data sites. Below that, and data sites will be skipped.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/98 "2018-05-29T20:40:18Z")

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That is why I don’t understand why players are finding them in relic sites? so strange this was ccp’s chance to make data a little more competitive with relic’s. also why only in mostly amarr sites does ccp want most of the loot to go to goons?

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/99 "2018-05-29T20:42:14Z")

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^ I dunno if those reports are accurate. All my filaments came from data sites. Might be a bug.

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**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/100 "2018-05-29T20:42:38Z")

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I don’t feel players would lie about that thou. Well im trying both reaching my 3rd hour scanning should have been asleep already but maybe will find one 😕

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