# Into The Abyss: First Impressions **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 29, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227 "2018-05-29T11:38:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/101 "2018-05-29T20:44:54Z")
Well it’s Eve. A bit of disinformation might misdirect explorers away from data sites to relics, leaving the data sites for the people spreading disinformation. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ember\_Fireheart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ember_fireheart/32/278556_2.png) [@Ember\_Fireheart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ember_Fireheart)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/102 "2018-05-29T20:45:48Z")
Maybe if it was coming from smart players 😛 which has not always been the case so far 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/103 "2018-05-29T20:59:53Z")
So my first impressions are watching this thread and being amazed at killmails, people losing their blingedout cruisers with pods. 1B, 500M, 300M, a lot of deadspace mods and faction cruisers dying. Tis the **BLACK TUESDAY**! Everything going **DOWN**! 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![Omnathious\_Deninard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/omnathious_deninard/32/266675_2.png) [@Omnathious\_Deninard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Omnathious_Deninard)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/104 "2018-05-29T21:13:44Z")
> [@zluq\_zabaa](#): > > > [@Tipa\_Riot](#): > > > > How do you probes those traces?? I see them on dscan, but not in combat probe window? How?? > > People reported that CCP made them unprobable in the end… Patch notes say you need to use combat probes. ---
**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/105 "2018-05-29T21:21:33Z")
Yeah, I’ve seen the CCP reply in the other thread. You need to manually add a filter for Abyssal Traces in your Scan window. ---
**Author:** ![Terranid\_Meester](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/terranid_meester/32/425207_2.png) [@Terranid\_Meester](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Terranid_Meester)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/107 "2018-05-29T21:34:59Z")
Guess you are right though I would have thought it would have been a default setting. Crisis averted! ---
**Author:** ![slphy\_vansyl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/slphy_vansyl/32/176986_2.png) [@slphy\_vansyl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/slphy_vansyl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/108 "2018-05-29T21:54:31Z")
so many tears, so many metal burning in abyss, so many whinning… EVE is alive! yes, you cant have all, now, for free! sad? good! ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/109 "2018-05-29T22:14:57Z")
I just look forward to trolling gankers that wait at entry points… ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/110 "2018-05-29T22:21:05Z")
Q: When does anything work right on Day 1? A: Never! Solution? Don’t get your panties in a bunch. Standard Operating Procedure. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/111 "2018-05-29T22:26:52Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Tis the **BLACK TUESDAY**! Everything going **DOWN**! We should be happy btw! Like two weeks ago those Tier4 and especially Tier5 were much more harder on SiSi. How many players did the Abyss sites on Test Server? Check Test Server logs. Like a week before the release, CCP DEVs just nerfed the rats dps, speed, EHP and other stuff. Before those nerfs, those rats fights were a damn horribly skirmish, like: insane aggro and tracking on drones, 1800m/s NEUT Drifter BS and Scrambling Triglavian BS, all rats were on optimal distance, armor/shield logistic fleets, rats with huge EHP buffers and etc in a series of three pockets. I noticed reports, that the most difficult Tier 5 pockets required like 950-1000 Cruiser dps! and a tank of Cap strong T2 Cruisers under Faction/DED modules. A 750 dps Cruiser were unable to finish the event in time. [update] I’m going to sell all my collected exploration stuff during last month 🤔 Maybe it’s time now… ---
**Author:** ![Celesta\_Burns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/celesta_burns/32/182233_2.png) [@Celesta\_Burns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Celesta_Burns)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/112 "2018-05-29T22:37:03Z")
Guys, you are doing something wrong. Abyss traces can be scanned with combat probes. You just need to create new filter. Drop is relatively good, even from T1 dungeons. Two skill books, decayed mutaplasmids and stuff for triglavian ships ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/113 "2018-05-29T22:37:16Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > I just look forward to trolling gankers that wait at entry points… Yeah. Somebody already using those Abyss portals as a bite under those dirty ganks of D-Scan immune Recon ships and sneaky Faction and T3 Cruisers. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/114 "2018-05-30T07:18:27Z")
Something good came of all this:seeing hac hull prices go up encouraged me to sell mine and make a profit^^. Haven’t run any sites yet i did keep an eye on my jita alt for ship bpc prices and so on.it’s been about 24hours since launch and given the patern in materials and bpcs prices I don’t see this being lucrative enough. Also looking back at tier 1 and 2 site npc composition and potential fits for ships given a bit of time it’s possible to make bots for those tiers ---
**Author:** ![marVLs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvls/32/478691_2.png) [@marVLs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/marVLs)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/115 "2018-05-30T08:13:21Z")
And those “dead squad” spawns, even on tier3… content is just not balanced! ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/116 "2018-06-09T21:03:37Z")
Honestly. I really like the Abyss update. I had a feeling this is the way they would go with content. I left Stain for a while, I’m based out of Jita for my Abyss operation. As I say I am happy with the concept and looking forward to doing more tier 1s in my dual web Thorax, I’ve been at it 1 day this will be the 2nd day. I am very much enjoying the industry aspect of it and have found the Abyss has breathed new life into T1 modules. The Industry and Trading aspect of it is good, we can run a process on a T1 or any module and manipulate some of the attribs, thats cool. I have done some reasonably good trade very quick and in high demand. The new ships and guns look amazing, Im skilling for them right now. I would recommend anyone fit up a dual web Thorax and give it a go. [Thorax, Aaron’s Thorax] Calm Dark Teir 1 Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery Stasis Webifier II 10MN Afterburner I Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Heavy Electron Blaster II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Warrior I x10 Null M x3820 Void M x6970 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x5000 ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/117 "2018-06-09T21:52:56Z")
> [@marVLs](#): > > And those “dead squad” spawns, even on tier3… content is just not balanced! “dead squads” reads like “gankers” to me. These “dead squads” might be intentional, to put players onto their toes and for the content not to turn stale and too easy too quickly. Just a thought, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t done on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/118 "2018-06-09T22:18:29Z")
+1 to CCP. Ran Abyssal sites for the first time today, and five hours later, I’m still doing them. I had a lucky “drop” where two gankers tried to attack me in Jita as I exited a site. Unfortunately for them, I wasn’t flashy, and they died to Concord. I looted 1b from their wrecks. So far, it’s been fun! ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/119 "2018-06-09T22:49:53Z")
This fit seems to work on Tier 1s well, Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery 10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II 200mm Railgun II 200mm Railgun II 200mm Railgun II 200mm Railgun II 200mm Railgun II Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Acolyte I x8 Acolyte II x2 Javelin M x4680 Spike M x4970 Antimatter Charge M x5000 Technique: Use Spike m to snipe them as they mwd toward you once they are within 10km web them and orbit at around 9km, switch to antimatter use drones and take them out quick. With this fit I am completing Tier 1s with a good 7 minutes left. I’m easing my way into it slowly and taking notes while limiting my loss to around 30m, I’m really looking forward to having a go at Tier 2s, I’ve had my eye on the Sacrilege for the tier 2s and 3s, Reliable missile DPS might be useful here. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/120 "2018-06-10T17:58:39Z")
I think its too weak for tier 2. The dps enemies deal there is a lot more noticable, without kiting and heavy tank there mey be a serious problem. Preferred ship is tech 2 assault cruiser or ship with bonus to tank. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/into-the-abyss-first-impressions/79227/121 "2018-09-08T17:58:40Z")
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