# Introducing the HyperNet Relay **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** devblog, official\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064 "2019-11-27T14:56:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/921 "2019-11-28T00:33:52Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > the players are “creating the individual raffles” therefore again falling under the descriptio. The players aren’t even violating the law here either. > [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > Sorry, but on every single count you are wrong here. You can’t even show me where the definition of “money’s worth” is in relationship to in-game assets, lmao. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/922 "2019-11-28T00:33:56Z")
If it becomes a problem it only takes abit to move your office to the USA or another country and evade the laws. ---
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/923 "2019-11-28T00:34:03Z")
> [@Sabus\_Narian](#): > > What do you mean? If that made no sense, you may not read my posts. That’s OK; I routinely request adding a CLEAN SHIP button to the station menu 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Grey\_Solaris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_solaris/32/233329_2.png) [@Grey\_Solaris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Solaris)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/924 "2019-11-28T00:34:06Z")
Why are so many people against this? Like, do you guys not have money? ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/925 "2019-11-28T00:34:13Z")
Stop insulting people, its very immature of you ---
**Author:** ![Umr\_al-Tawil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umr_al-tawil/32/425021_2.png) [@Umr\_al-Tawil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umr_al-Tawil)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/926 "2019-11-28T00:34:16Z")
Thast why l said its a a gray area just looking over the pdf its a mess of this that and another ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/927 "2019-11-28T00:34:28Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > and in no way have read “the whole act” as you claim. You don’t need to read “the whole act” to see that it doesn’t actually apply in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/928 "2019-11-28T00:34:35Z")
You win this thread my friend, ccp give him a crown. ---
**Author:** ![Umr\_al-Tawil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umr_al-tawil/32/425021_2.png) [@Umr\_al-Tawil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umr_al-Tawil)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/929 "2019-11-28T00:34:35Z")
we have money but no phones ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/930 "2019-11-28T00:35:23Z")
Not insulting. Try to keep up, there’s a good boy. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/931 "2019-11-28T00:35:49Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Its like CCP have other thing for ya: train Gambling V. 😂 Ha ha ha NO. I’d rather see them add the old smuggling/black market skills back into the game. At least those would serve a useful purpose in letting players slip contraband past the gate guards. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/932 "2019-11-28T00:36:00Z")
Lol bittervet ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/933 "2019-11-28T00:36:45Z")
Aye having a smuggling gameplay feature would be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Katana\_Masen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katana_masen/32/471330_2.png) [@Katana\_Masen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katana_Masen)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/934 "2019-11-28T00:37:54Z")
But None of examples you sorted has good consequences. CCP had said PLEX prices ascending is the problem and will deal with it though, PLEX prices are still double priced compared 3 years ago. Skill injectors and rorquals/excavetors interactions broke minerals/ore price balance. This hypercore NES sells itself is not Lootbox stuff : However this will easily grind the next step of true P2W or lootbox stuff as CCP has already proven they are strongly aspiring these kinds of stuff judging from recent few years. Abyssal Filaments are the most good examples for this. ---
**Author:** ![Anoron\_Secheh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anoron_secheh/32/502239_2.png) [@Anoron\_Secheh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anoron_Secheh)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/935 "2019-11-28T00:38:16Z")
This is an unwanted and dumb thing to add. This just opens CCP to lawsuits. ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/936 "2019-11-28T00:38:46Z")
Can always move to another country if the lawsuits become a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Sho\_Riagl\_Khardula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sho_riagl_khardula/32/292422_2.png) [@Sho\_Riagl\_Khardula](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sho_Riagl_Khardula)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/937 "2019-11-28T00:39:47Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > > [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > > > and in no way have read “the whole act” as you claim. > > You don’t need to read “the whole act” to see that it doesn’t actually apply in this case. Unfortunately, some lawyers and some law makers are inclined to disagree. There is still lofty debate to be had concerning definitions and scope. There is much, much more to the matter than a simple paragraph or clause. But clearly, neither you nor I am am lawyer - so I think we can both sleep secure in the knowledge that CCP do have legal cousel and know exactly where the boundaries lie. With that, goodnight. (Well, it is here) ---
**Author:** ![Sabus\_Narian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sabus_narian/32/147677_2.png) [@Sabus\_Narian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sabus_Narian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/938 "2019-11-28T00:39:54Z")
PLEX will always go up, we need to encourage more players with deep pockets to buy it, and add things on the NES to encourage people to want to have plex. CCP even said that if prices get too high that they’ll do discount plex packages, I think the problem will fix itself with time. ---
**Author:** ![Umr\_al-Tawil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/umr_al-tawil/32/425021_2.png) [@Umr\_al-Tawil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Umr_al-Tawil)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/939 "2019-11-28T00:40:57Z")
EU law is going to be harder then the uk law, and theres no way russia will let them move eu severs to the usa ---
**Author:** ![LifeisagameCH\_Thellere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lifeisagamech_thellere/32/300042_2.png) [@LifeisagameCH\_Thellere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LifeisagameCH_Thellere)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/940 "2019-11-28T00:42:16Z")
[Seriously?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0) Well i guess you need to block this in Switzerland, we passed a law that blocks all providers of any Kind of Gambling … [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064.md?page=45) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064.md?page=47)