# Introducing the HyperNet Relay **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Tags:** official, devblog\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064 "2019-11-27T14:56:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_relevant_revenant/32/172435_2.png) [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Relevant_Revenant)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1711 "2019-11-30T00:32:11Z")
its not real though its still in game stuff and if ccp got a net and even though everyone here loves eve we got to admit its a prity nerdy game and can you see the average gambler going into eve to win ships to play with 40k other people? Or would they go to fifa 2020 and play that against multiple millions of players where gambling is the way of progression in the game? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_relevant_revenant/32/172435_2.png) [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Relevant_Revenant)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1712 "2019-11-30T00:33:32Z")
they would notice that there eve activities makes them unable to pay there internet bill which would then cut them off from the game so thats good? IDK honestly iv never been that into something that it takes over as hard as people make this whole thing out to actualy be ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1713 "2019-11-30T00:34:35Z")
> [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](#): > > its not real though its still in game stuff Players’ brains are not ‘in game stuff’. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1714 "2019-11-30T00:34:41Z")
Or to at least notify the player of how much they spent? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_relevant_revenant/32/172435_2.png) [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Relevant_Revenant)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1715 "2019-11-30T00:38:51Z")
would that be per account or email account or actual credit card? as all three can be setup a theretical unlimited amount of times so it could super easily be avoided ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1716 "2019-11-30T00:40:18Z")
Sorry, I guess I worded it wrong. Limit the amount of HYN’s you can buy a month. Edit; per account. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1717 "2019-11-30T00:42:49Z")
Ok, so it takes me about 30s to set up a new account… and now I’ve got another X number I can buy! Yay F2P! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1718 "2019-11-30T00:43:19Z")
I have to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/borbarad_naglfar/32/131048_2.png) [@Borbarad\_Naglfar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Borbarad_Naglfar)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1719 "2019-11-30T00:44:14Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Limit the amount of HYN’s you can buy a month. and what does that to prevent people from buying PLEX so they can keep gambling on those raffles? ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1720 "2019-11-30T00:44:17Z")
Oh, I get that, but really, limiting the number of times you can do ‘X’ in a game where individual players have (and this is not exaggeration) over 1,000 accounts to do SP-farming with… kinda already doesn’t work, you know? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1721 "2019-11-30T00:48:24Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > over 1,000 accounts to do SP-farming with… That was an interesting revelation! You are always a wealth of information. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1722 "2019-11-30T00:49:10Z")
There’s at least one SP farmer who ran the numbers and is pretty confident he can elect himself to the CSM if he chooses. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1723 "2019-11-30T00:50:12Z")
> [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](#): > > they would notice that there eve activities makes them unable to pay there internet bill which would then cut them off from the game so thats good? Uh, right, because a gambling addict would never keep the internet on and sacrifice other stuff first, or run up tons of credit card debt before stuff gets shut off, etc. > IDK honestly iv never been that into something that it takes over as hard as people make this whole thing out to actualy be Then perhaps you could stop being a sociopath, learn this concept of other people having different experiences, and do some research on addiction so you can maybe understand their situation? Or I guess you could take the sociopath route and declare that because you haven’t been addicted it can’t be as bad as people say. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_relevant_revenant/32/172435_2.png) [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Relevant_Revenant)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1724 "2019-11-30T00:51:54Z")
lmao now that shows what is truely wrong with this game not some fun raffle idea right? people like me with double digits in accounts and others who devalue the solo player to the point they mean next to nothing. Why would you recruit a solo miner when you could nab a bloke who has 1k mining accounts? No not at all thats not the isue in game its the fact ccp sugested putting a raffle in game am I right? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_relevant_revenant/32/172435_2.png) [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Relevant_Revenant)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1725 "2019-11-30T00:58:21Z")
sure it makes sence for me to waste my time to understand someone who dosent know when to say enough is enough and walk away. im sadly out of wine and as im a responsable person who knows when enough of something that has “dopamine” stimulations “w/e that is” ima go to bed because its like 1am good night and if i truely am a “sociopath” as you like to call me then your “stop being” comment is as much a sociopath statment as my lack of understanding addiction. Like if your not one yourself you might grasp that its not something you can stop. Kinda like this addiction thing you say a gambler has. maybe they should stop gambling and move on taking your own advice posted to me? ---
**Author:** ![Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/festmester_uctionsson/32/266759_2.png) [@Festmester\_Uctionsson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Festmester_Uctionsson)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1726 "2019-11-30T00:58:59Z")
Not legally gambling, requires IRL value to be considered as such, at least in sane parts of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1727 "2019-11-30T01:00:41Z")
> [@The\_Relevant\_Revenant](#): > > sure it makes sence for me to waste my time to understand someone who dosent know when to say enough is enough and walk away. im sadly out of wine and as im a responsable person who knows when enough of something that has “dopamine” stimulations “w/e that is” ima go to bed because its like 1am There you go again, displaying that lack of empathy for other people. > good night and if i truely am a “sociopath” as you like to call me then your “stop being” comment is as much a sociopath statment as my lack of understanding addiction. Like if your not one yourself you might grasp that its not something you can stop. Kinda like this addiction thing you say a gambler has. TBH I don’t think you have a permanent mental illness. You seem much more like an asshole kid who just encountered Ayn Rand for the first time and thinks that “be a ruthless dick to everyone as long as you get rich” is a deep philosophical statement. Most people like you grow out of their poor behavior and cringe when they look back at the awful things they used to say. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1728 "2019-11-30T01:02:30Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > You seem much more like an asshole Who sounds like an arse hole now? You should get flagged. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1729 "2019-11-30T01:04:04Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Who sounds like an arse hole now? The person who is literally posting “why should I care about other people as long as I’m making ISK”. Hint: that person is not me. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/introducing-the-hypernet-relay/203064/1730 "2019-11-30T01:04:46Z")
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