# Invasion - is NOT FUN **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533 "2020-04-07T08:06:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/83 "2020-05-27T20:36:19Z")
What I despise about the changes, Invasions and the Trig ships. - Triglavian ships make the normal pirate factions ships feel weak and obsolete. - The designs of those ships look to be Omega, all of the pirate faction frigate ships allow alpha players. - The Trig spew themselves all over Highsec into systems that both Omega and Alpha players reside causing a down graded feeling for those pilots who are only able to play via Alpha. - The Triglavian Invasions makes New Eden seem like it was just served a plate full of crap. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/84 "2020-05-27T21:03:17Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > - The Triglavian Invasions makes New Eden seem like it was just served a plate full of crap. I for one will welcome our new Triglavkin Malarkey overlords. CCP screwed up by turning the game into taking turns shooting each other’s shitty refineries for 15 minutes three times a week. This is their contrition, and our penance. I am ready to be saved. Praise Talos. /me slits open a carebear’s throat, soaks hand with blood, creates a palm imprint on own face ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/85 "2020-05-27T21:08:02Z")
Inside the game titled _Scum_, even the carebears get to eat the corpses they collect. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/86 "2020-05-27T21:11:26Z")
If bend the limbs you can make them into almost starcakes ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/87 "2020-05-27T21:19:41Z")
But I am so scared and need hugs ![pos](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/2/f2cce6bfa575b3809f42addf4c64111f59774608.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/88 "2020-05-27T21:24:35Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > causing a down graded feeling for those pilots who are only able to play via Alpha. Good. Alpha players are scum and _should_ feel bad. If you want to be a real person in EVE then buy the game. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/89 "2020-05-27T21:30:18Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Good. Alpha players are scum and _should_ feel bad. If you want to be a real person in EVE then buy the game. How is that even fair though? An Alpha player can purchase plex, fit T1 Faction Navy Pirate Ships. They can support the game via buying other items from the NES store like the daily apha injectors. Why are those players frowned on? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/90 "2020-05-27T21:31:44Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > > Good. Alpha players are scum and _should_ feel bad. If you want to be a real person in EVE then buy the game. > > How is that even fair though? An Alpha player can purchase plex, fit T1 Faction Navy Pirate Ships. They can support the game via buying other items from the NES store like the daily apha injectors. > Why are those players frowned on? Alpha state is one of CCP’s biggest recent mistakes. If you look anywhere the game is reviewed (such as on Steam), you can see that **most** of the negative reviews deal with the fact that this “free” game is charging for so many things (which, obviously, need to be free). Back when a subscription was mandatory, there were few, if any, such reviews, and the few that existed came from people who reviewed _every_ game negatively for that exact reason. EVE used to be rated in the upper-eighties for such a long time, and now it’s lower than 70%. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/91 "2020-05-27T21:38:01Z")
Forum used to be for paying customers only. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/92 "2020-05-27T21:43:23Z")
Maybe if they were to unlock the Triglavian ships to every player then when the Launcher pukes out new skins perhaps Alpha players might purchase them. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/93 "2020-05-27T21:45:13Z")
I dont understand why youd buy a skin when you could just buy Omega in the first place though ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/94 "2020-05-27T21:46:39Z")
Omega is like for those full time gamers who play every day. Alpha is for those pilots who can only find the time to play once or twice a month. / It is much more appealing for an Alpha pilot to purchase plex than Omega and spend their time grinding plex just to play the game how they want. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/95 "2020-05-27T21:47:35Z")
Dude, the things you can do on Omega when you are only on once or twice a month… Wait a minute, you are Orca’d to the nines, whatchoo talkin about, Dexter? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/96 "2020-05-27T21:49:01Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > How is that even fair though? Simple: you buy the game, you are a person. You play for free and beg for charity handouts you take what you are given and stop begging for more. > An Alpha player can purchase plex Which they can use to no longer be an alpha player. > Why are those players frowned on? Because they are, as a whole, entitled parasites who whine and cry if their farming abilities get nerfed in any way and demand all of the benefits of being a paying customer for free. And because the F2P business model inevitably leads to lower quality games as making “free” players buy stuff in the cash shop takes priority over improving the game itself. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/97 "2020-05-27T21:52:18Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Which they can use to no longer be an alpha player. Now that just sounds super duper dumb to me. Cause an Alpha pilot can buy 15 bucks of plex a month and should be able to get just as much out of the game as an Omega pilot who pays 14.99 a month subscription. Rant, why are Trig ships locked out of Alpha Pilots when this Invasion promotes game play and interaction for **all** Pilots ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/98 "2020-05-27T21:53:29Z")
Its cheaper to sub than PLEX ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/99 "2020-05-27T21:54:05Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Cause an Alpha pilot can buy 15 bucks of plex a month and should be able to get just as much out of the game as an Omega pilot who pays 14.99 a month subscription. You can. You spend your $15/month and you are no longer an alpha. Problem solved. > Rant, why are Trig ships locked out of Alpha Pilots when this Invasion promotes game play and interaction for **all** Pilots Because you don’t get to play the entire game if you don’t pay for it. Buy the game if you want to fly everything, and be glad you get to fly anything above T1 frigates. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/100 "2020-05-27T21:55:38Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Wait a minute, you are Orca’d to the nines, whatchoo talkin about, Dexter? I sold 3 x Orcas yesterday. My alts I repackaged them and sold them well I did only plan to rent them. I rent ships, do you rent your ships too? It is fun, maybe you do maybe you don’t but I like to rent my ships. **Alpha Pilots should feel the same as an Omega Pilot in these Invasions and they should be able to fly Trig ships.** ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/101 "2020-05-27T21:56:38Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Alpha Pilots should feel the same as an Omega Pilot in these Invasions and they should be able to fly Trig ships. Why? Why should non-paying leeches get the same benefits as paying customers? ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/102 "2020-05-27T22:00:01Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Its cheaper to sub than PLEX Since when? Are you sure? I have not subscribed to this game for like ever/ RAF allows an Alpha pilot to create an Alt referral to their main account, then buy $ plex then their receives 4x master-pleb boosters + the alt referral gets the plex that as purchased. Put both of those two together and purchase Omega via in game plex. (Omega sub vs Alpha RAF) Wonder how many accounts can be created? / > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Why? Why should non-paying leeches get the same benefits as paying customers? WOW just wow how can an Alpha pilot be considered a leech? That is a low blow. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=5)