# Invasion - is NOT FUN **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533 "2020-04-07T08:06:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/103 "2020-05-27T22:03:36Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Since when? Are you sure? Ever, afaik For me, 500 PLEX would be £16.99. A sub is £9.99 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/104 "2020-05-27T22:06:11Z")
Raf x 2 with purchase of 2x 110 plex = 1 x Omega + isk spending for ship rentals ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/105 "2020-05-27T22:09:34Z")
You can sustain that indefinately, can you? Sounds like an awful lot of effort for someone who only wants to be on twice a month though ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/106 "2020-05-27T22:10:58Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > the F2P business model inevitably leads to lower quality **gamers** Fixed that for ya. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/107 "2020-05-27T22:13:03Z")
That is not the message I am trying to bring forward here. The message is that is important here is; Alpha Pilots should feel the same as an Omega Pilot in these Invasions and they should be able to fly Trig ships. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/108 "2020-05-27T22:14:03Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Alpha Pilots should feel the same as an Omega Pilot in these Invasions and they should be able to fly Trig ships. Yeah until you explain why you think this, I cant really engage with that. Im just sayin, like, that subs are great. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/109 "2020-05-27T22:16:07Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Yeah until you explain why you think this, I cant really engage with that. Well, let’s break things down as we approach this invasion that is current content. > The carrot is on the stick ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/110 "2020-05-27T22:16:50Z")
Carrot = Content? Stick = Be Omega to get the most out of it? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/111 "2020-05-27T22:18:06Z")
Honestly I wouldn’t mind if Alphas could fly everything. That just means more loot pinatas for me. Maybe CCP needs to eliminate most skills as requirements, and limit them to efficiency bonuses only. Of course, they’ll have to boost most industrial yields (especially for T2 stuff) to compensate. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/112 "2020-05-27T22:21:54Z")
Well the content is dangling. An Omega pilot can just hop straight into a shinny new Drekavc and taste the content. An Alpha can sit back and watch. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/113 "2020-05-27T22:22:31Z")
Why do you need a Drek? A Draek would do just as well ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/114 "2020-05-27T22:24:39Z")
Current content, taste what is being offered without being forced to become Omega. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/115 "2020-05-27T22:30:19Z")
If the new content is locked behind a requirement to have a Trig ship, I was not aware of this. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/116 "2020-05-27T22:31:20Z")
It is likely a 2-4 month Omega train for a reasonable fit Drek… ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/117 "2020-05-27T22:35:06Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > It is likely a 2-4 month Omega train Or a couple of minutes depending on how fast the PLEX transaction takes to go through. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/118 "2020-05-27T22:36:23Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > Or a couple of minutes depending on how fast the PLEX transaction takes to go through. Which makes absolutely no sense in context of an Alpha account… ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/119 "2020-05-27T22:39:00Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > Which makes absolutely no sense in context of an Alpha account… I responded to what you said. Not what you were going to say next. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/120 "2020-05-27T22:40:40Z")
I am following the conversation here. And I suppose that some people _might_ spend a bunch of money on PLEX and still play as Alpha, it just doesn’t make sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/121 "2020-05-27T22:57:24Z")
> [@Wanda\_Fayne](#): > > Which makes absolutely no sense in context of an Alpha account… It makes everything seem backwards right now if an Alpha account can not board and fly a Triglavian ship. / > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > If the new content is locked behind a requirement to have a Trig ship, I was not aware of this. Yes, capsuleers require Omega status to be able to fly a Trig ship. ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/122 "2020-05-27T23:03:57Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > It makes everything seem backwards right now if an Alpha account can not board and fly a Triglavian ship. You may be right. But ultimately it is CCP’s decision if/when they allow Alpha players to use anything they currently cannot. OTOH you can go Omega and not worry about such _trivial_ things 😉 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=6)