# Invasion - is NOT FUN **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533 "2020-04-07T08:06:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/123 "2020-05-27T23:05:26Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Yes, capsuleers require Omega status to be able to fly a Trig ship. I am aware of that, I didnt know you needed one to access the new content. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/124 "2020-05-27T23:06:52Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I am aware of that, I didnt know you needed one to access the new content. Flying anything less than that right now is just avoiding the real issue with the Invasions. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/125 "2020-05-27T23:08:08Z")
If you say so. They seem fiddly and awkward to me, but I dont tend to be fleeted much to see them work properly. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/126 "2020-05-27T23:13:01Z")
That might be the case to some, though bringing forward the fact that a pilot can decide who to fight for. Triglavian hunter or defender is the current option and if an Alpha pilot wanted to chose the defender then would it be too hard to ask that they can fly a Triglavian ship by any chance without Omega? ---
**Author:** ![Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maximilian_wulffe/32/210326_2.png) [@Maximilian\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maximilian_Wulffe)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/127 "2020-05-27T23:16:32Z")
It couldn’t possibly be that your personal situation is so that your alpha account(s) can’t fly them but you’d like to? And that it’s not really a “for the betterment of the game” thing? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/128 "2020-05-27T23:59:45Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > WOW just wow how can an Alpha pilot be considered a leech? That is a low blow. Plays the game because of the charity of others, provides nothing in return. Sounds like a leech to me. > [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > An Omega pilot can just hop straight into a shinny new Drekavc and taste the content. > An Alpha can sit back and watch. Yep. If you want the content you can buy the game. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/129 "2020-05-28T00:07:18Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > An Omega pilot can just hop straight into a shinny new Drekavc and taste the content. > An Alpha can sit back and watch. Is this not the sole, singular, and wholly intended difference between Alpha and Omega? You want access to all the cool stuff you plex or sub. You want access to all the new content you plex or sub. An alpha player has no expectation of access to everything. Being Alpha is being excluded. That’s the point. You don’t need a trig ship to participate in the invasion. It’s not like what Alpha clones can use isn’t very well communicated. You don’t get all the cool stuff. You want all the cool stuff you sub up. Do you complain that the free demo of a game doesn’t include the whole game for free? Buying plex doesn’t entitle you to _anything_. Spending plex on omega entitles you to those things that Omega allows. You spend your plex on other things, and get what you pay for. You don’t really have a basis for complaint here. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/130 "2020-05-28T01:17:27Z")
So what I am taking away from this thread is that the title should be renamed to read Alpha - is NOT FUN? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/131 "2020-05-28T01:38:43Z")
If you want the full content then go Omega…this is not complicated… Stop being so entitled… ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/132 "2020-05-28T02:32:10Z")
Alpha is the free trial. This game has never been anything other than a subscription game even if CCP has been generous enough to give you some of the gameplay without a subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/133 "2020-05-28T02:54:44Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > So what I am taking away from this thread is that the title should be renamed to read Alpha - is NOT FUN? Pretty much. Buy the game if you want to be treated like a paying customer. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/134 "2020-05-28T05:38:40Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Pretty much. Buy the game if you want to be treated like a paying customer. The circle is complete as here we are still on this issue of _paying customer_ Above it was said that an Alpha capsuleer _could_ purchase plex Maybe even more than a std omega paying amount and still be treated as a non paying customer by the community. We are at the start of the third and final installment in the year-long Triglavian Invasion expansion. Let’s open the Triglavian to Alpha Capsuleers and offer them the ability to train and fly Triglavian ships. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/135 "2020-05-28T05:58:49Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Let’s open the Triglavian to Alpha Capsuleers and offer them the ability to train and fly Triglavian ships. Let’s not…Alpha’s already have more than enough things to do… ---
**Author:** ![Wanda\_Fayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wanda_fayne/32/377654_2.png) [@Wanda\_Fayne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wanda_Fayne)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/136 "2020-05-28T06:02:19Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > We are at the start of the third and final installment in the year-long Triglavian Invasion expansion. Alphas are welcome in the Invaded sites too, they are out there fighting side-by-side with their fleetmates. Nothing stopping them… from having fun! ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/137 "2020-05-28T06:37:54Z")
Invasion effect for capsuleers is to put more work into flying their spaceships. If they like it or not. 🤷‍♀️ This is working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/138 "2020-05-28T06:41:32Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Let’s open the Triglavian to Alpha Capsuleers and offer them the ability to train and fly Triglavian ships. I agree. At least frigates and destroyers. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/139 "2020-05-28T08:19:45Z")
Yeah totally! ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/140 "2020-05-28T09:12:12Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Above it was said that an Alpha capsuleer _could_ purchase plex And they **could** spend those PLEX on Omega. If you want Trig ships, spend your PLEX on Omega. Subscribing players don’t get permanent skins for free and they don’t just get given hundreds of millions of ISK from the TTT market purely because they’re subscribed. Try buying Omega with your PLEX instead of selling it for ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/141 "2020-05-28T09:22:18Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > It makes everything seem backwards right now if an Alpha account can not board and fly a Triglavian ship. Absolute nonsense. Follow that approach through to it’s logical conclusion and you may as well give everyone as many free Omega subscriptions as they want, on demand - at which point CCP goes bust and Eve disappears. ---
**Author:** ![Sequester\_Risalo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sequester_risalo/32/260741_2.png) [@Sequester\_Risalo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sequester_Risalo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533/142 "2020-05-28T10:19:20Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > The circle is complete as here we are still on this issue of _paying customer_ Another circle is completed here. If I nunderstood correctly the OP was complaining because the new content reached him regardless of being an omega or alpha clone. In my opinion that is also the only viable option. Otherwise Alpha clones could haul, mine, explore etc. without being attacked of the invaders. That would make no sense. Any pilot can and does participate in the new content regardless of being able to fly in Triglavian ships. You do not need to sit in a Triglavian ship tom make one explode. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasion-is-not-fun/230533.md?page=7)