# Invasions are trapping and one shotting noobs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 2, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236 "2019-07-02T18:18:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/121 "2019-07-17T21:14:36Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/122 "2019-07-17T21:20:28Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > I use “vet” for lack of better term, not to point the finger. Fair enough, but it’s an over generalisation that managed to insult a fair few of the people that would normally be inclined to help out a recently exploded newbro if asked. Some recently exploded people are outraged and rant in local, they do tend to be the objects of derision, but if they calm down and ask they’ll often be rewarded with wisdom. Attitude being a key aspect of the response they get from their killers. Those that don’t calm down often come to the forums and whine about it. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/123 "2019-07-17T21:28:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/124 "2019-07-17T21:39:19Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > I’m not a whiner though and if posting and giving my opinion on these threads is seen as whining then all I have to do is delete my forum account. I don’t think that you’re a whiner, I just think that you’re a little naive. Eve is one of those games that has thoroughly earned its reputation, compared to other devs CCP do very little marketing, what Eve allows to happen its own marketing and is what gets Eve mainstream news headlines for free. If Eve’s reputation gives someone doubt, they probably won’t like the reality. Part of that reputation comes from reviews and forums posts from people that have tried Eve and disliked it, full of what would be considered greifers in other games etc. Many of those negative reviews ignore that those playstyles not allowed in other games are very much allowed in Eve. Many of them come from people that threw insults and RL threats at someone who had just killed them, and wondered why they then became a joke. As the old saying goes, if you meet an arsehole in the morning you met an arsehole, if you meet them all day, you’re the arsehole. The sooner a player embraces Eve for the evil heartless ■■■■■ that she is, the sooner they begin to succeed in Eve, both socially and in terms of opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/125 "2019-07-17T21:50:16Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/126 "2019-07-17T21:53:34Z")
What the hell is going on in here? Oh Oh God, not again _turns into a bowl of petunias and promptly dashes self on planetary surface._ ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/127 "2019-07-17T21:55:16Z")
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**Author:** ![Baaldor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baaldor/32/461993_2.png) [@Baaldor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baaldor)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/128 "2019-07-17T21:56:03Z")
Yonna, Let me say this, “Vets” are the ones that actually are keeping this going. We bring lots of knowledge and perspective tothe game. We pass along this knowledge and help out the new players that are WILLING to listen. If they don’t want to listen as their own biases drown out the advice of the older players, then so be it, have no time to waste on them as others that are willing to learn and listen, engage in questions, are time worth spent. The peeps that laud this sjw mantra, wanting to change the game based on their own myopic view points…will have a very hard time with this game. The instructions are on the box, it has warnings all over it. It tells you what you are getting into and what the game premise is. Not sure how much more of a heads up one needs to understand this is the rules, you have your warnings and adjust accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/129 "2019-07-17T21:59:26Z")
Your moral code is your own, in the main it should align with the community that you live in, as it is a result of the societal norms of that community. Whether or not to apply a RL moral code to a game is a choice; to me a game is an escape from my everyday life, the moral code I apply in real life need not apply to fantasy, which is an attraction when in search of escape. The societal norms of Eve are very different from those of real life, as such so is the overall moral code. Eve is the middle ages, in space; not a 21st century first world country. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/130 "2019-07-17T22:00:10Z")
> [@Optimus\_Maximus](#): > > Could a standard Freighter with 3 bulkheads II tank them long enough to align and warp out? What about a tanked blockade runner / DTS? Yes. Freighters (even fully expanded, no need to be all bulkheads), Bowheads, Orcas and DST all just get through perfectly fine. Blockade runners can cloak so no issue at all, although the rats move pretty quickly towards you when you initially decloak, but so far I’ve not been decloaked by them after hitting warp and recloaking. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/131 "2019-07-17T22:02:27Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/132 "2019-07-17T22:03:45Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > Jonah\_Gravenstein is more like someone I would **respect** giving me pointers and whatnot. He’s giving you the same message, I’m just nicer about it. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/133 "2019-07-17T22:05:57Z")
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**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/134 "2019-07-17T22:06:41Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/135 "2019-07-17T22:07:06Z")
I only have one question: Does your code of conduct in any game (or even life) get tested? I mean, are you ever tempted to break it? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/136 "2019-07-17T22:08:47Z")
How did we go from “grrr invasion rats” to “grrrr vet players”? ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/137 "2019-07-17T22:10:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/138 "2019-07-17T22:10:45Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/139 "2019-07-17T22:10:54Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > I like to be able to look at myself in the mirror and not flinch in disgust. Ah I see. I guess Im the total opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236/140 "2019-07-17T22:16:30Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > But to each his own as they say. Indeed, I once met a guy in losec on one of my trials. Killed my shitfit rifter dead. Lovely bloke, let me loot my own wreck, showed how to properly fit a rifter and stuff like that. Turned out to be a Roman Catholic priest that wouldn’t swat a fly in real life. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/invasions-are-trapping-and-one-shotting-noobs/171236.md?page=8)