# Is CCP ever likely to deal with stream sniping? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 30, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756 "2023-01-30T11:31:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Erkkinnen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erkkinnen/32/391080_2.png) [@Erkkinnen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erkkinnen)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/199 "2023-01-31T22:31:01Z")
I think this guy’s sad mining stream plus the defenders of anti-stream-ganking is really a psy-op to get more people into ganking itself. I can’t think of many alternatives. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/200 "2023-01-31T22:32:41Z")
> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#): > > One other way to fix things would be to make a mechanic to verify that someone is streaming and to reimburse any lisses he suffered due to other playe agression during the stream. I would livestream 24/7 in a 50 billion ISK officer fit Golem with zero worries since I know it would get reimbursed. Also… ![No](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/1/1/b11c1ad77e0a9d20af0cb3002a8fa81f6b68d71a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/201 "2023-01-31T22:34:17Z")
> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#): > > Or they could simply accept the game they _chose_ to play. That would shut the forum down. Nothing left to push back on as there’d be no more crying for CCP to hold their hand. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/202 "2023-01-31T22:35:36Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > There’s nothing in the EULA that says 'we reserve the right to detect that you are watching Home & Away while mining '. No, but such documents receive routine updates, so this isn’t an issue. > [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > And how does a streaming service detector know that a person is streaming Eve and not the butterflies in their garden ? It all becomes absurd…especially when the issue is that people have violated the very privacy that _the game itself_ provides in order to stream content via third party software whose use invalidates any such in-game privacy. People can’t have their cake _and_ eat it. While CCP can easily add a few common streaming APIs to EVE (e.g. Twitch and YouTube) to automate the process for the _majority_ of platforms, this in itself isn’t needed. If a player states that they identify as a streamer and don’t want to be attacked, this should be enough of a qualifier, for the simple reason that streaming is _so_ ridiculously easy and accessible to pretty much _everyone,_ that there’s no need to ask for proof in the same way someone’s driving license would need to be validated, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/203 "2023-01-31T22:41:03Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > If a player states that they identify as a streamer and don’t want to be attacked Great ! I identify as someone who wants to be able to attack everyone else without being attacked. I think that is perfectly reasonable and CCP should amend the entire game just for me. I also identify as being absolutely correct about everything. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/204 "2023-01-31T22:49:32Z")
I acknowledge that you have the entitlement to voice your wishes. It’s ultimately up to CCP to decide which ideas they accept and which ideas they discard. I think that as far as streamer-griefing is concerned, they will go with the status quo in order to protect EVE’s streaming platform presence and status as an e-sport, because it’s simply more profitable for them to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/205 "2023-01-31T23:43:54Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Streamers say, “Look at me, I’m so good, watch me.” That’s what makes it funny. And he didn’t see it coming = funnier. Then his reaction when he _finally_ realized = hilarious. * * * ~Fifie rewinds vid, a few more viewings for learning purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/206 "2023-02-01T01:40:46Z")
This should already be against the EULA even if there’s not a specific streaming rule. The EULA forbids using third party applications to gain an advantage over other players. Stream sniping is using a third party application to give a significant advantage over the streamer. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/207 "2023-02-01T02:04:06Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > his should already be against the EULA even if there’s not a specific streaming rule. The EULA forbids using third party applications to gain an advantage over other players. Stream sniping is using a third party application to give a significant advantage over the streamer. That’s not exactly what it says. The portion of the EULA essentially deals with cheating mechanisms, i.e. using third-party tools in order to modify the game client and such: 1. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. 2. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game. If it was as you say, then even using kill boards would be against the EULA, since they are third-party applications that confer an advantage in terms of intelligence gathering. Nothing in the EULA prevents players from using legitimate third-party services that are game-related. This is why the only solution is to allow streamers to opt out of non-consensual PvP at their discretion using a toggle option built into the client. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/208 "2023-02-01T02:08:38Z")
I recently joined a fleet advertised on Discord. Third party application cheating? Defi IsATroll 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/209 "2023-02-01T02:09:20Z")
That rule does not apply when it’s the other party who willingly provide the information that leads them to get killed. Very often it happens that Streamers are scum, they are always whining and complaining about other players when they get outplayed, and trying to force the dev’s hands to change the game mechanics to whatever they want the game to be. Always to their benefit. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/210 "2023-02-01T02:12:19Z")
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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/211 "2023-02-01T02:12:50Z")
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