# Is CCP ever likely to deal with stream sniping?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 30, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756 "2023-01-30T11:31:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/62 "2023-01-31T00:17:14Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> Take a closer look at both videos. You’ll see it eventually.

Those videos don’t show any evidence of input broadcasting. You are seeing things that aren’t there.

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**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/63 "2023-01-31T00:24:27Z")

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> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#):
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> Take a minute and look into it, Ha’Kar. It’s not even that hard for someone with decent coordination.

> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> Those videos don’t show any evidence of input broadcasting. You are seeing things that aren’t there.

Do I have to make a drawing for you noobs? Look closely at the gank on the vexor navy. He activates and overheats the guns on his first window and then boom! magically all the windows have guns activated and overheated. plus every client shoots, scrams and webs with just one click inside the client. binned commands anyone? Derp noobs!

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/64 "2023-01-31T00:36:47Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> Do I have to make a drawing for you noobs? Look closely at the gank on the vexor navy. He activates and overheats the guns on his first window and then boom! magically all the windows have guns activated and overheated

Because it’s very possible and probable that he already had those guns activated and overheated before the video starts. The videos don’t show the state of the other windows prior.

Like I wrote before, you are seeing things that aren’t in the video and imagining that it happened one way, when a perfectly valid and likely alternative exists.

DId you report him? Because that would be the appropriate approach, unless you have actual evidence of input broadcasting you can post.

> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> plus every client shoots, scrams and webs with just one click inside the client

Yes, that’s the way the mechanics work when you have active modules. Ctrl+Click is all it takes to start the targetting and then the modules activate.

It’s worth understanding the mechanics before trying to claim someone is cheating.

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**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/65 "2023-01-31T00:38:28Z")

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lol you are grasping for straws to protect him. obvious troll. and yes I filed a ticket.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/66 "2023-01-31T00:44:06Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> and yes I filed a ticket.

Then if he gets banned, you’ll know. If not, then you’ll also know that you are wrong.

> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> lol you are grasping for straws to protect him.

Not at all. Cheaters should be banned. At the same time, if you are going to accuse someone of cheating, then you should be able to show it.

At the moment, you are just guessing.

> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> obvious troll.

Self-reflection is great and all, but I wouldn’t call you that at all. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

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**Author:** ![Adrian\_Vexier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adrian_vexier/32/352640_2.png) [@Adrian\_Vexier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adrian_Vexier)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/67 "2023-01-31T00:49:28Z")

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Damn, that is some Top Gun level dangerous flying there. I’d like to pop in a popcorn bag, but seeing that a ticket was brought into question, I’ll just link this cool little video that was buried deeper in “that ganker’s” channel. The recording starts a little earlier in the gank procedure.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/a/a/8aa32a11abb75212b79fe99fd1b37ab3f292b910.jpeg "EVE Online Gank - 12 man Ganker-Squad 2022.08.02-01") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwmo6J1hhOM)

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/68 "2023-01-31T00:50:18Z")

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> [@Fifie\_Brindacier](#):
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> That’s funny! It shouldn’t be forbidden.  
> Everyone should be subjected to the same rules on the server. Risk&Reward should apply evenly to all.  
> Congratulations to Sargon of Amerish for a job well done.

> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> If you stream an activity in a sandbox PvP game, you need to be prepared for player interaction as everybody else has to.

Nope, it’s actually a clear case of griefing… And could also be viewed as an exploit.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> the streamer calling me a “b” - which actually is against the EULA of both EvE and Twitch.
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> I won’t report it though.

Because that’s exactly what you are…

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Ganking Highsec miners is doing them a FAVOUR, and if CCP really wants to improve player retention, they should just get rid of Highsec entirely. Safe spaces are BORING, and put everyone to sleep.

Heh, you’re really full of it…

And if CCP did do that, this game would pretty much die within 24 hrs afterwards…

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/69 "2023-01-31T00:56:47Z")

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🍿 🍻

A new drama thd.

I find it funny as others have pointed out that if I’m suddenly streaming, I get immunity _and_ get to keep my stuff? Why not have everyone stream and be immune?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/70 "2023-01-31T00:59:42Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Why not have everyone stream and be immune?

Exactly.

It doesn’t take much thought to figure out ways that immunity for streamers would be a problem for the game.

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**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/71 "2023-01-31T01:05:02Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> lol you are grasping for straws to protect him. obvious troll. and yes I filed a ticket.

Actually it just shows you don’t understand game mechanics 😃

> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#):
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> It doesn’t take much thought to figure out ways that immunity for streamers would be a problem for the game.

Of course. But then we all know who the OP’s alt is. 😃

This would lead into sheer craziness.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/72 "2023-01-31T01:10:09Z")

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> [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](#):
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> This would lead into sheer craziness.

What game has the most live streams at once record? A record could give eve a boost in the arm. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/73 "2023-01-31T01:15:07Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> I don’t know how someone is doing a thing, so they must be cheating!!!

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/c/7c5d1ebbe326a0a8b59de0bf0d5a21364f26c101.gif)

> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> Do I have to make a drawing for you noobs?

Please do, professor.

> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> yes I filed a ticket.

I feel sorry for the ccper who has to deal with yet another of those. Probably don’t expect that one to be very high priority, you are hardly the first.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/74 "2023-01-31T01:20:42Z")

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> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#):
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> hardly the first.

And hopefully not the last! 😆

Personally, I would love to watch some of these feeds live while having the theme song from Jaws playing in the background while I _SCREAM_ at the screen to look behind you! 🤣 🤣 🤣  
[jaws theme song - Google Search](https://www.google.com/search?q=jaws+theme+song&ei=32rYY-LtCdmmptQPz-SEsAU&gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TCupyipIMakwYPTiz0osL1YoyUjNTVUozs9LBwCqEwrG&oq=jaws+theme&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:9d50a678,vid:GfQu5po6USo)

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**Author:** ![Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ha_kar_ma_gor/32/352552_2.png) [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ha_Kar_Ma_Gor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/75 "2023-01-31T01:21:46Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> I don’t know how someone is doing a thing, so they must be cheating!!!

hey I never wrote that! that’s a false quote! you can’t do that!

> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#):
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> Probably don’t expect that one to be very high priority, you are hardly the first.

so you admit you have been reported for broadcast input before?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/76 "2023-01-31T01:31:26Z")

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> [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](#):
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> > [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> > I don’t know how someone is doing a thing, so they must be cheating!!!

How about you quote correctly instead of making up trollcrap…

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**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/79 "2023-01-31T02:12:23Z")

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> [@Ha\_Kar\_Ma\_Gor](#):
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> so you admit you have been reported for broadcast input before?

Accusations don’t equal guilt, sorry Torquemada. People have reported folks for input broadcasting when they couldn’t figure out how it was done over and over. Been happening for a long time. Again, you are hardly the first.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/82 "2023-01-31T02:28:16Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> whenever someone acts toxic toward a griefer, CCP should punish the griefer for it; because the griefer’s victims aren’t _actually_ bad people IRL, they were just _manipulated_ into cussing at the griefers, threatening them with out-of-game violence, etc.

Pretty sure this is exactly what a GM said to me.

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**Author:** ![Fifie\_Brindacier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fifie_brindacier/32/373279_2.png) [@Fifie\_Brindacier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fifie_Brindacier)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 2:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/84 "2023-01-31T02:43:59Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Nope, it’s actually a clear case of griefing… And could also be viewed as an exploit.

The guy broadcasts his position, his ship, modules… and he’s just floating there targeted at a rock in a big expensive ship like New Eden is for tourists… smh. Easy prey.

> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> I find it funny as others have pointed out that if I’m suddenly streaming, I get immunity _and_ get to keep my stuff? Why not have everyone stream and be immune?

That’s the idea I guess.  
@DeMichael_Crimson Why should anyone have immunity from the consequences of ill-thought actions?

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~Fifie looking into Streaming.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/86 "2023-01-31T03:45:33Z")

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> [@Fifie\_Brindacier](#):
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> That’s the idea I guess.  
> @DeMichael_Crimson Why should anyone have immunity from the consequences of ill-thought actions?

I never said anything about giving immunity to anybody so don’t imply that I did.

As for this particular instance, they specifically targeted him just to troll grief his gameplay and disrupt the stream, and since they used an out of game resource to locate him, that could be viewed as an exploit.

Anyway, I really don’t care if you or anybody else thinks it’s perfectly fine. Personally I think actions like that is what’s been slowly killing Eve’s log-in count.

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**Author:** ![Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuro_kanashimi/32/351894_2.png) [@Kuro\_Kanashimi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuro_Kanashimi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-ccp-ever-likely-to-deal-with-stream-sniping/393756/88 "2023-01-31T06:25:27Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> Yew…

Best city in all of Britannia.

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