# Is EVE actually dying? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 31, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944 "2018-03-31T10:59:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Aetrid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetrid/32/77858_2.png) [@Aetrid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetrid)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/254 "2018-09-13T17:50:07Z")
EvE is not dying…EvE is already dead. The EvE that has been died the moment the acquisition deal between PA and CCP was signed. EvE is dead, long live EvE. QFT: > [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > PA is not after EVE’s tiny sliver in western market, what they’re hunting here it’s the massive Chinese smartphone gaming market… and with CCP they just bought 2 brand new games which might be launched in China eventually, and a ready to launch PC title that might inject fresh money no matter how skeptycal we are about CCP’s abbility to develop any other game than EVE. > > It’s not EVE what PA want. It’s the new games and CCP’s experience in China. ---
**Author:** ![Beekeeper\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beekeeper_bob/32/395030_2.png) [@Beekeeper\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beekeeper_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/255 "2018-09-13T21:59:25Z")
Having returned after 5 years, and spent about two weeks recovering my 0.0 assets that CCP was ransoming back to me in low sec, I can honestly say the game has gotten far quieter than I remember. I ran a alt in a pod thru Curse the other night and hardly saw a soul, no ships, no camps…nada. I’ve run several 100 billion out of low sec without even breaking a sweat. In fact I’ve seen one camp of 6-7 people who actually gave chase for a few gates, but fell behind quickly. Population has dropped significantly, I can see why they went to ftp, but I have to wonder how it’s working out. ---
**Author:** ![Starwarpz\_Le](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/starwarpz_le/32/480699_2.png) [@Starwarpz\_Le](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Starwarpz_Le)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/256 "2018-09-14T09:12:34Z")
eve dies only when all players are bots ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/257 "2018-09-14T09:42:42Z")
Zombification, or automatisation. ---
**Author:** ![Millstrom\_Lowki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/millstrom_lowki/32/96609_2.png) [@Millstrom\_Lowki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Millstrom_Lowki)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/258 "2018-09-14T20:39:40Z")
So im in High sec and it has lost its mind CCP is letting everyone wardeck everyone soon the miniing crews are going to get tired and play other games most of our teamspeak is playing other games because CCP will not fix the problems that are going on. ---
**Author:** ![Chribba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chribba/32/396873_2.png) [@Chribba](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chribba)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/259 "2018-09-14T20:58:48Z")
Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/260 "2018-09-15T09:51:18Z")
It is simple enough, sub on a per month basis. If you get a war dec de-sub for a month, put in the reasons due to war dec, come back for a month later and sub and play then rinse and repeat. If more of you did that then you would have some power. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/261 "2018-09-15T09:56:44Z")
It would be wise to stop recurring sub, for now, till we see what comes out of this. You can always manually re-sub if things remain ok for you. ---
**Author:** ![Speedkermit\_Damo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/speedkermit_damo/32/144817_2.png) [@Speedkermit\_Damo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Speedkermit_Damo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/262 "2018-09-15T10:43:43Z")
Like many of the, players ---
**Author:** ![Papparainen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/papparainen/32/96710_2.png) [@Papparainen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Papparainen)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/263 "2018-09-15T11:06:51Z")
Reading the comments on this chain, it seems EVE is like Schrödinger’s cat. Don’t look and it will be dead and live at the same time. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/264 "2018-09-15T12:01:50Z")
Feels like 0,0 is dying. Its now filled with bots, bots and more bots, and even more citadels then bots. Fix Citadels and bots and 0,0 might live again ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/265 "2018-09-15T13:05:09Z")
> [@ArmyOfMe](#): > > Feels like 0,0 is dying. > Its now filled with bots, bots and more bots, and even more citadels then bots. > > Fix Citadels and bots and 0,0 might live again Then they’d have to fix massive alliances which is partly done by introducing massive jump/bridge limitations because that limits their power projection. But CCP backed off real quick from that under pressure from the null lobby after discussing it with the CSM. Power projection results in massive coalitions (which in itself then multiplies the problem), keepstars dumped everywhere and empty 0.0 space. ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/266 "2018-09-15T13:11:35Z")
Im not worried about bridges tbh, but there are now vast areas of space not used, other vast areas only used by bots, and citadels are everywhere like some throwaway shuttles ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/267 "2018-09-15T13:15:34Z")
which is the result of power projection, which is mostly a thing due to bridging. So if you care about the things you say you care about, you should probably care about bridging and jump drives. ---
**Author:** ![ArmyOfMe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/armyofme/32/514222_2.png) [@ArmyOfMe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ArmyOfMe)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/268 "2018-09-15T13:18:47Z")
Bridges means they can get defence fleets formed faster, which is a good thing these days, or at least it would have been if someone actually formed. Dont get me wrong, I do understand your point, and I somewhat agree with it, but for pvp the bridges used to help them form up against roamers, but not anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/269 "2018-09-15T13:28:46Z")
BridgING as in the whole concept, not talking about bridgES specifically. It’s really simple. If I have a group of lazy and partially clueless friends who when grouped up and with a lot of hand holding can smack people around, and somehow I get the ability to deploy them instantly without any real effort of themselves in a 20 jump radius around me (and a lot more if I put in real effort) several things happen. a) that whole area will become a waste land, because people don’t like being smacked around b) people who live fairly close by will want to become friends with me, because they don’t like being smacked around. Which then multiplies the problem A and B combined means that it’s pretty much safe (as it’s ever going to be in EVE) to drop expensive assets. Again, it’s the main reason why the situation is what it is. Not wanting to hear that because you make use of the mechanics yourself doesn’t change this. ---
**Author:** ![radkid10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radkid10/32/312530_2.png) [@radkid10](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/radkid10)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/270 "2018-09-16T10:59:25Z")
Eve online is probably going to die in the next 3 years they sold their souls to a Korean company the game is doomed ---
**Author:** ![Speedkermit\_Damo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/speedkermit_damo/32/144817_2.png) [@Speedkermit\_Damo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Speedkermit_Damo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/271 "2018-09-16T11:04:17Z")
0,0 is fine. More than fine, it’s broken. Perhaps CCP could stop pandering to 0,0 and give some attention to low-sec for once. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/272 "2018-09-16T11:05:02Z")
Just unsub and put “Didnt realise there was other players”. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/273 "2018-09-16T13:34:52Z")
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