# Is EVE actually dying? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 31, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944 "2018-03-31T10:59:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/721 "2019-10-20T09:28:12Z")
This thread’s like…2004 all over again! But with PLEX! Kyaaaa~ ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/722 "2019-10-20T09:41:39Z")
> [@Mark\_Marconi](#): > > EvE as shown by CCP is controlled by Null sec, the people least likely to pay with cash. Shut up Balos. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/723 "2019-10-20T09:42:39Z")
> [@Scary\_Uncle\_John](#): > > Glad i didn’t resub So are we. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/724 "2019-10-20T09:45:42Z")
> [@little\_bo](#): > > YOU DO NOT NEED TO SPEND MORE TO BECOME OMEGA IT IS EASY TO BECOME OMEGA TOO EASY LOOK AT zKillboard… > again I challenge you with my question – if the claim is that ppl who get ganked from the start or starting out rage quit what DOSE HAPPEN the the $$$$ they would have spent is lost as they rage quit – so > QUESTION > can a game work if ppl don’t spent the $$$$$$ ??? Shut up Balos. ---
**Author:** ![Bossman\_ONeil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bossman_oneil/32/161182_2.png) [@Bossman\_ONeil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bossman_ONeil)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/725 "2019-10-21T12:29:32Z")
Let’s see what my activities have been for the last week: Day 1. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out 2. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out 3. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out 4. Log in, fly to belt, loose frigate due to 5 Triglavians, get another ship, fly to different belt, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out, slightly irritated about loosing ship, but not overly so 5. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out 6. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 5 rat, get 25K SP, apply skill points, log out 7. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out Grand total played, maybe 1 hour. I don’t see the plan being any different this week. I’d rather play Farm Sim or Factorio right now that EVE; mainly because I’m not spending 70%+ of my time warping between encounters. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/726 "2019-10-21T13:34:43Z")
> [@Bossman\_ONeil](#): > > I’d rather play Farm Sim or Factorio right now Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Varla\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/varla_auscent/32/165697_2.png) [@Varla\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Varla_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/727 "2019-10-21T13:47:03Z")
> [@Bossman\_ONeil](#): > > Let’s see what my activities have been for the last week: > > Day > > 1. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out > 2. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out > 3. Log in, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out > 4. Log in, fly to belt, loose frigate due to 5 Triglavians, get another ship, fly to different belt, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out, slightly irritated about loosing ship, but not overly so > 5. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out > 6. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 5 rat, get 25K SP, apply skill points, log out > 7. Log in, get free 25K SP, kill 1 rat, get 10K SP, apply skill points, log out > > Grand total played, maybe 1 hour. I don’t see the plan being any different this week. I’d rather play Farm Sim or Factorio right now that EVE; mainly because I’m not spending 70%+ of my time warping between encounters. You’re doing better than me. Login get free sp, logout Without the free sp. doubt I’d get past the login page. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/728 "2019-10-21T14:39:18Z")
Nobody is **making** you collect the free SP, just ignore it and do something else. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/729 "2019-10-21T18:14:00Z")
Free sp is always welcome, long may it continue. 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![F3ND1MUS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/f3nd1mus/32/377706_2.png) [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/730 "2019-10-22T05:33:43Z")
EVE ONLINE FOREVER! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/731 "2019-10-22T08:33:31Z")
They should change the name to AFK OFFLINE. ---
**Author:** ![Bossman\_ONeil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bossman_oneil/32/161182_2.png) [@Bossman\_ONeil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bossman_ONeil)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/732 "2019-10-22T11:29:25Z")
Once can always hope that the game will turn around and therefore the collected skill points are worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/733 "2019-10-23T02:02:36Z")
I’m only playing this while I wait for a better game to come along. Unfortunately, that has not happened yet. ---
**Author:** ![StealthNet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stealthnet/32/165973_2.png) [@StealthNet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/StealthNet)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/734 "2019-10-23T03:10:26Z")
Funny how things didn’t change and… somehow changed a lot in more than 17 years. Since beta I hear people saying eve is dying. I remember the day when tranquility couldn’t stand 6k players and fountain battles would brake the servers. Been a long time since I last logged in. Payed omega just for the pleasure of seeing my account still exists. In fact, I have to say… congrats to CCP for keeping things going for that long time. I have to thank you. Back then (2002 /2003) I was deep into a depression crisis and I can say that eve saved me. As funny or strange as it might seem, I had a sense of purpose. That kept me alive enough to sort things out. Again, thank you and congratulations. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/735 "2019-10-24T03:40:27Z")
> [@Bossman\_ONeil](#): > > I’d rather play Farm Sim… So…nullsec it is, then. cool. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![F3ND1MUS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/f3nd1mus/32/377706_2.png) [@F3ND1MUS](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/F3ND1MUS)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/737 "2019-10-26T07:07:48Z")
to answer original op, we just had a fight in null sec with over 500 people…sounds totally dead to me… 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/374866_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/738 "2019-10-26T07:46:13Z")
In the good ole’ days, 500 ships fights were known as a “weekend brawl”. 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Crash\_888](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/crash_888/32/357008_2.png) [@Crash\_888](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Crash_888)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/739 "2019-10-26T15:06:13Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/5/15d5d93aa1441baaa7fe369ce18a55f4b9234681.png) no comment ---
**Author:** ![ExcalibursTemplar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/excaliburstemplar/32/383837_2.png) [@ExcalibursTemplar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ExcalibursTemplar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/740 "2019-10-30T17:21:44Z")
22.7k online going into peak time, it was the same last night, what the ■■■■ is going on. ---
**Author:** ![Trillana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/trillana/32/166888_2.png) [@Trillana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Trillana)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944/741 "2019-10-30T17:38:04Z")
It’s definitely down from is highs years ago but that’s not deterministic. This could be simply be a lower level which could be sustainable. Also eve isn’t a static product so changes can be made that will shift the pcu. But hey I’ve been hearing Eve’s dying for years one of these times it’ll be right. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944.md?page=32) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-actually-dying/66944.md?page=34)