# Is EVE being purposely sabotaged?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617 "2020-05-05T22:43:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/270 "2020-05-14T13:55:00Z")

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So you’re claiming that I work for the Goons. Interesting. Can you tell them that? Because I really should be getting paid if I am.

(Of course, only a total nit-wit would claim that Goons aren’t organised. It’s what they do. Every significant entity in Eve has _some_ organisation. The large you are, the more you need. I’ll admit, my comment was mostly a dig at Code being insignificant.)

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/271 "2020-05-14T14:55:59Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> nit-wit

You’ve encountered Balos, I see.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/273 "2020-05-14T15:24:12Z")

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Something to bear in mind with me, and the CSM:

I’m a lame duck. I’m not running for CSM 15.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/274 "2020-05-14T20:01:25Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> So you’re claiming that I work for the Goons. Interesting. Can you tell them that? Because I really should be getting paid if I am.

Everybody at csm is working for the best of the goons…no exeption…and no doubt…

> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You’ve encountered Balos, I see.

Better than encountering somebody like you…a one dimensional,uncritical customer in whose eyes CCP is making no mistakes and can’t do anything wrong even if they paddle back and bow down,butt up to the goons and csm like they did at the end of blackout…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/275 "2020-05-14T20:05:03Z")

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> [@Gowa\_Hyasyoda](#):
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> A good politician will only say things with a purpose whereas a bad politician will speak their minds. If you sound believable and honest you can make people think what you want about yourself but if speaking without thinking you might give away your position or how little you actually understand.

A good politcian works for goals not for his image…and he works for his goals without compromise because a compromise only waters down what is needed and recognized to be necessary…

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/276 "2020-05-14T20:05:42Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Everybody at csm is working for the best of the goons…no exeption…

Satanist lizard people!

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/c/cc9e57a8254803d2432c6d24aa4f67cdebf5eeba.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/277 "2020-05-14T20:07:10Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Everybody at csm is working for the best of the goons…no exeption…

You… don’t know much… like in general, do you?

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/278 "2020-05-14T20:07:50Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> Satanist lizard people!
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> [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/c/cc9e57a8254803d2432c6d24aa4f67cdebf5eeba.jpeg) ](https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/old_wire/img/upload/2013/04/02/LizardMan/facebook.jpg?1522786015)

Just the reality everybody is aware of…no need to deny it…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/279 "2020-05-14T20:08:32Z")

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I’d like to see you back up what you’re saying about me with some form of evidence.

Mostly because I think it’d be a fascinating look into an alternate reality.

Shame you don’t have any, outside your paranoid delusions.

(and this isn’t even looking at Olmeca.)

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/280 "2020-05-14T20:08:36Z")

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> [@Scoots\_Choco](#):
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> You… don’t know much… like in general, do you?

I’m satisfied knowing more than you…and i do…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/281 "2020-05-14T20:11:46Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> I’d like to see you back up what you’re saying about me with some form of evidence.
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> Mostly because I think it’d be a fascinating look into an alternate reality.
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> Shame you don’t have any, outside your paranoid delusions.
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> (and this isn’t even looking at Olmeca.)

You can deny what i say as long as you want…

I see that this is part of the game…

We know whose song you sing and who pays the bills…

It’s way too obvious…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/282 "2020-05-14T20:12:23Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> some form of evidence

Fat chance of that, he’s failed to produce anything to support any of his other claims; including the one immediately above.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/283 "2020-05-14T20:13:16Z")

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So in other words, you have no evidence, and you’re just going to slander my (somewhat) good name.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/284 "2020-05-14T20:14:01Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Fat chance of that, he’s failed to produce anything to support any of his other claims.

Why should i?

For what purpose?

All i would get is another demand for ‘prove’ and another one and another one…to no end…

Was there.done that,quit ‘proving’…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/285 "2020-05-14T20:14:48Z")

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> [@Steve\_Ronuken](#):
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> So in other words, you have no evidence, and you’re just going to slander my (somewhat) good name.

You slandered your name entering csm…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/286 "2020-05-14T20:16:17Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> quit ‘proving’

To quit, you must first of all start.

I’ve never seen you present anything other than your somewhat polarising opinion to back up any of the claims that you’ve made about the game in general, or the people that play it.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/288 "2020-05-14T22:07:12Z")

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Whatever drugs Darlo is taking, I want some of that because it must be some good ■■■■.

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/289 "2020-05-14T22:09:10Z")

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Darlo is high on just “Being Darlo” - the rest of us will never experience that high.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/290 "2020-05-14T22:37:52Z")

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Politics is the art of the compromise.

Because, without compromise, you will not get _anything_, unless a majority of people agree with it. And if a majority of people agree with it, you won’t need to work for it.

It’s an incredibly naive view, to think that the only way to be a good politician, is to never compromise.

(Of course, the CSM is not a political organisation. You don’t need to come to agreements with other members. No bargains required.)

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/291 "2020-05-15T00:05:07Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> You can deny what i say as long as you want…

So you can’t back-up your claims at all…

Why is nobody shocked with this…

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