# Is EVE being purposely sabotaged?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617 "2020-05-05T22:43:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/292 "2020-05-15T00:15:58Z")

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YES

 ![60776_496330907096797_1055154882_n](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/2/525f15f7108dae442632af312a92355ffde5a750.png)

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/293 "2020-05-15T00:44:22Z")

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It’s okay, we’ll add politics to the long list of things that Darlo doesn’t understand, but feels the need to inflict his thoughts about it on us anyway.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/294 "2020-05-15T01:53:43Z")

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Bummer your leaving the CSM, but I still don’t blame you.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/295 "2020-05-15T10:44:18Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> So you can’t back-up your claims at all…

my god…to provide the back evidence you require for every thread you land on would require wikipedia. We don’t really care you dont understand or agree and we’re not going to compile information packets for you, get over yourself in this thread an all others.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/296 "2020-05-15T11:30:58Z")

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Oh look another supporter of the “make a claim without the need for evidence” gang…

We don’t really care you don’t understand or agree with fair debating tactics and logic and we’re not going to compile a “how-to” for you, get over yourself in this thread an all others.

BTW I wasn’t the only person here asking him to clarify his claims either so…deal with it…

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/297 "2020-05-15T11:32:23Z")

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oh look another member of a crew IDGAF what you think or say.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/298 "2020-05-15T11:35:23Z")

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Actually I do care what one says especially when it’s a BS claim that they refuse to back-up…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/299 "2020-05-15T11:45:11Z")

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There is no BS around the goon CSM dominance and that the goons get everything they want,even a takeback of blackout,which was the most cowardly act of CCP since the ‘monocle desaster’ and that was when?  
10 years ago?..🙂

And they did A LOT of mistakes between those points…

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/300 "2020-05-15T11:52:07Z")

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Opinions are not facts…or evidence…

Hyperbolic statements such as:

> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Everybody at csm is working for the best of the goons…no exeption…and no doubt…

…without any evidence carry zero weight to them.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/301 "2020-05-15T11:54:13Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> …without any evidence carry zero weight to them.

The only evidence needed here is what decisions CCP makes…

Those are one sided and only favoring PVP…

Any more questions needed?

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/302 "2020-05-15T11:55:56Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> Any more questions needed?

I never asked a question so…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/303 "2020-05-15T12:02:31Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> I never asked a question so…

bean counting…

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/304 "2020-05-15T12:03:50Z")

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> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> bean counting…

Thank-you.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/305 "2020-05-15T12:14:23Z")

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there you are again bantering about expecting people to deliver on your information expectations.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/306 "2020-05-15T12:16:33Z")

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Yes yes…facts and evidence are hard for you we know…

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/307 "2020-05-15T12:18:56Z")

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based on your posting history you dont want facts you just want to be right.

You’re not capable of carrying on a discussion with someone with a discerning point of view.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/308 "2020-05-15T12:21:26Z")

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LOL…so now you’ve gone personal. Funny…typical but still funny…

Anything to avoid facts and evidence I guess…

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/309 "2020-05-15T12:22:10Z")

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pot calls kettle ----you stick to topic and see what happens , hero.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/310 "2020-05-15T12:23:37Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> you stick to topic and see what happens

I was literally asking for facts and evidence ON TOPIC…and you had issue with that…LOL…wow…hero

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**Author:** ![Dowager\_Morgane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dowager_morgane/32/258362_2.png) [@Dowager\_Morgane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dowager_Morgane)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/311 "2020-05-15T13:33:26Z")

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One of the greatest crimes of the information age is to ask for ‘evidence’ or ‘facts’, it seems.

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