# Is EVE being purposely sabotaged? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617 "2020-05-05T22:43:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/401 "2020-06-03T10:37:16Z")
I am not trying to sabotage 1.0 systems ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/402 "2020-06-04T08:00:26Z")
In Austria, newspapers openly celebrate this as a fact by admiring how well trained politicians are with rethorik and body language. No one thinks about it, everyone just thinks this is how it works and should be. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/403 "2020-06-04T09:15:49Z")
When I first read this thread I thought nonsense. Now its 29d old and I find this thread fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![Infection](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/infection/32/173071_2.png) [@Infection](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Infection)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/404 "2020-06-16T19:09:47Z")
I have no idea why you would even entertain the idea that someone supporting Star citizen would be angered by an eve player. First Star citizen is in Alpha and neither game is a threat to the other. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/405 "2020-06-16T19:59:53Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/b/8b79ce6619f41d6c8b4c56dcbbf8a4ac2455bd88.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_projekt/32/204683_2.png) [@Solecist\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/406 "2020-06-17T17:22:27Z")
It’s interesting how the game’s being _sabotaged_ when it kicks the bears, but it’s _not_ being sabotaged when it caters to them. Ironically, that’s exactly what began in 2013 and ended last year with the black out. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/407 "2020-06-17T17:37:12Z")
> [@Solecist\_Projekt](#): > > It’s interesting how the game’s being _sabotaged_ when it kicks the bears, but it’s _not_ being sabotaged when it caters to them. Can you show us on the doll where the scary bear touched you? ---
**Author:** ![The\_NewGuy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_newguy/32/166853_2.png) [@The\_NewGuy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_NewGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/408 "2020-06-17T19:46:43Z")
Indeed Red Dots are horrific!! Some of the worst changes ever added to Eve in the past year! Good post ---
**Author:** ![Chadamu\_Kinaksaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chadamu_kinaksaka/32/229411_2.png) [@Chadamu\_Kinaksaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chadamu_Kinaksaka)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/409 "2020-09-13T09:30:35Z")
I beleive it. Trig invasions no warning and dead ship worth almost a billion in a .7 green area. If I dont get reimbursed just deleting this 2014 toon. Have that for dessert. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/410 "2020-09-13T09:34:51Z")
Can I have your stuff? ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/411 "2020-09-13T10:25:02Z")
do either include sliced prunus serotina? ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/412 "2020-09-13T10:30:26Z")
Very funny that some people really seem to think CCP had any ‘good’ ideas since falcon left… ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/413 "2020-09-13T10:31:42Z")
that’s what happens when you don’t pay attention. Pro tip: invasion systems take on an odd hue and the HUD reflects the status by displaying weird trangular characters. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/414 "2020-09-13T10:34:36Z")
‘Invasion’ shouldn’t happen AT ALL… It’s just live to actually KILL all trade,all pve and all non pvp action in this game and make high sec ripe for picking and to split high sec between the ‘trig sector of space’ and the null sec blocks…the null sec blocks will be the only players left in this game because pve is already leaving in masses… ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/415 "2020-09-13T10:41:18Z")
space is hostile, yanno. It will use the slightest opportunity to kill you. A micrometeoroid smashes through a wall and out the other side. You warp through a planet. An NPC dunks you on a gate… Where’s the salt over Sansha incursions? They’re infinitely nastier than NPC mining response fleets or even Tiglavians (both of which I’ve successfully fought off in an Orca - hell, I used to solo emerging conduits in an Orca). They’re equally as easy to avoid by scouting ahead and planning routes around affected systems. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/416 "2020-09-13T10:42:45Z")
LOL Again… Have i said LOOOL? Destroying a game,the ONLY game this company has by scaring 2/3 of your playerbase from the server is a ‘good’ idea in your eyes? ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/417 "2020-09-13T10:45:14Z")
stepping up the destruction and stirring the pot which has become stagnant and fat on resources for the past several years? Yes, it is a good idea. Any CCP reps monitoring this thread can tell us about player retention? The message from CCP is: this is a PVP sandbox, first and foremost, and there isn’t enough PVP. The increase in PVE interaction is intended to redress the balance. There are other games out there if all you want to do is accumulate stuff. Or, you could do it in EVE by flying to Jita and never undocking from 4-4. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/418 "2020-09-13T10:47:58Z")
> [@Gaius\_Mileghere](#): > > stepping up the destruction and stirring the pot which has become stagnant and fat on resources for the past several years? Yes, it is a good idea. Any CCP reps monitoring this thread can tell us about player retention? Dude is this ironic? It must be because again : This company is LOOSING 2/3 of their customers because of really really really bad ceo decisions and you STILL defend this? Because the null blocks will ‘win the game at last’? Really? I mean REALLY? Must be some kind of irony i don’t get… ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/419 "2020-09-13T10:49:59Z")
I’ll say it again: Let’s have the monthly player retention numbers from CCP, that’ll either prove or disprove what you’re claiming. Until then, I have a large pot of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/420 "2020-09-13T10:52:03Z")
Those shiny little ‘monthly numbers’ are just a fraud…they just take the highest number of a day and calculate a 30 day ‘average’ with it instead of calculating an average of the DAY and use THAT number for the 30 day calculation(which would result in a significant LOWER number of ‘players’)… Certainly this is beside the fact that those number do not show WHAT the players are actually DOING… Do they actively play(should count to the daily number) or just managing their skill(should not,because they are not ‘playing the game’)? For this reason alone the monthly update is simply wrong on purpose… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617.md?page=21)