# Is EVE being purposely sabotaged?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 5, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617 "2020-05-05T22:43:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/146 "2020-05-08T08:24:07Z")

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You do know that the RL cost didn’t change, right? That they split the old plex into 500 new plex?

Because your post seems to imply that you think they just raised the cost.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/147 "2020-05-08T08:28:31Z")

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Depends on how he’s looking at it, IRL terms the cost hasn’t changed and IMHO that’s the most pertinent thing to take into account.

If he’s looking at it in ISK terms the cost has increased dramatically, however that price is set by other players and the only investment of value required is time, not money.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/148 "2020-05-08T09:33:23Z")

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> [@Oldman\_Keith](#):
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> I am a network engineer

But you cant spell Desert? BS

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/149 "2020-05-08T09:47:41Z")

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We’re back to Black Dessert?

I prefer black pudding, with bacon, sausage, egg, beans, fried bread, mushrooms and hash browns, with lashings of HP sauce.

And now my stomach is demanding a full English.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/150 "2020-05-08T09:50:46Z")

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Again, I feel it is my duty to correct a basic flaw in your reasoning.

Just cos you aint not heard of soda bread and potato bread does not mean it is not the superior alternative to “fried bread” and “hash bruins”

Seriously, try it sometime, you will find your fry up massively improved!

Mushrooms I generally hate, but someone has to eat them I suppose.

Everything else there, spot on.

(Please note: You, in this instance, refering to everyone south of Dumfries)

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/151 "2020-05-08T09:56:45Z")

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Nowt wrong with potato bread, used to eat a lot of it in Germany as a kid; I’ve not tried soda bread, it sounds intriguing.

> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> everyone south of Dumfries

I live about as far south as you can get without getting your feet wet, or speaking some foreign lingo.

This is quite literally the view from my window.

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a3f4215ddc88edf4eb5e11961c71a69155e5de72.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/152 "2020-05-08T09:59:06Z")

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Fair dos, you need less carbs in that weather anyway.

So far south your fried bread is more half-crossiant lol

Just a little xenophobia joke there haha.

God Im bored locked in this cupboard.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/153 "2020-05-08T10:02:16Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> half-crossiant

Je parle un peu français 😛

> God Im bored locked in this cupboard.

I know that feeling, although it could be worse; you could be sharing the cellar with Billy.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/154 "2020-05-08T10:05:22Z")

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Nah, Ma’s turned that into her personal day spa. Billy lives on the roof as a warning to others to stay away.

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**Author:** ![ExcalibursTemplar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/excaliburstemplar/32/383837_2.png) [@ExcalibursTemplar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ExcalibursTemplar)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/155 "2020-05-08T10:40:31Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Nowt wrong with potato bread, used to eat a lot of it in Germany as a kid; I’ve not tried soda bread, it sounds intriguing.

You’re in for a treat make these yourself next time you plan on having a fry up.

> **[Irish or Scottish Soda Scones (White Bannocks) with Buttermilk](https://www.christinascucina.com/irish-scottish-soda-scones-white-bannocks/)**
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> Soda scones, whether they be traditional Irish or Scottish, (also referred to as white bannocks) aren’t just for St Patrick’s Day!

Once you’ve made them let them cool down, then slice them (like a bread roll) and lightly fry them on both sides in butter. Cover in baked beans or tinned tomato’s (my preference) when you plate up your fry up.

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**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/156 "2020-05-08T11:08:16Z")

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Black Dessert = Black Bean Brownies, with dark chocolate frosting.

Some people posting here clearly have some anger issues.

There have been many mistakes made by CCP, which in my opinion started with jump fatigue and then continued Fozziesov. I agree EvE has gotten too easy and stale, especially in null sec.

The best change CCP has made in a long time is the new Forsaken Fortress update.

However, my issue is that CCP is using the sledgehammer approach to reverting EvE back to a tougher game. I also believe this is partly by design to sell more skill injectors, which is fine. Over the past few years, CCP has buffed certain ships and play styles to become OP, which players bought injectors to boost their characters and alts. Then a year or two later they realize the mistake, do a massive nerf and buff something else unrelated, to again sell more injectors. Most players I talk to find this drastic style of buffs and nerfs very frustrating.

It seems CCP wants to move EvE back to 2010 in a matter of 6 - 12 months. It is very hard to take back multiple years of softer game design in such a short time without upsetting some of the crowd.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/157 "2020-05-08T11:24:57Z")

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You’re a fruit cake.

> [@Darlo\_Kubika](#):
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> And that’s a fact…

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/158 "2020-05-08T11:51:16Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Somebody doesn’t understand how an average works.
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> :not shocked:

You mean like ccp always taken the highest number of the day into the calculation of the ‘great’ status report and not the average of the day?

Well you are right…that is NOT surprising indeed knowing this would clearly show a decline…something they don’t really need or will ever confess…

Instead they use sleight of hand tricks to ‘look good’…

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/159 "2020-05-08T12:33:20Z")

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You can see both the totals and the averages for users at the Status Monitor…

“Tricks”…lol…

Why are you even here…

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**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/160 "2020-05-08T13:49:17Z")

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not EvE , players are , ☹

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/161 "2020-05-08T14:07:38Z")

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![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/5/f5eff4ce9ef94fcca4671edd109940f11c9f088c.jpeg)

This was my lunch. But this also works for breakfast.

Eggs poached in a spicy tomato sauce 🙂

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/162 "2020-05-08T14:15:59Z")

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May I suggest…

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/163 "2020-05-08T14:19:15Z")

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😃  
That’s basically what it was. Though simpler. no onion or peppers. and I just used garlic and chipotle paste.

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**Author:** ![Darlo\_Kubika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darlo_kubika/32/178136_2.png) [@Darlo\_Kubika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darlo_Kubika)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/164 "2020-05-08T15:47:13Z")

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> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#):
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> You can see both the totals and the averages for users at the Status Monitor…
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> “Tricks”…lol…
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> Why are you even here…

You don’t REALLY believe what you just posted?

Wrong numbers are wrong numbers regardless ‘what you can see’…

And the numbers are wrong because ONLY the highest number is put into the graph…it’s totally easy to see if you just follow the player numbers shown in the launcher for ONE day…

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-being-purposely-sabotaged/238617/165 "2020-05-08T15:49:21Z")

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You are like the court jester, Balos.

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