# Is Eve dying? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 20, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199 "2022-10-20T18:27:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/225 "2022-10-30T07:09:04Z")
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**Author:** ![Ninjesus\_Christ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ninjesus_christ/32/338848_2.png) [@Ninjesus\_Christ](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ninjesus_Christ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/226 "2022-10-30T07:16:36Z")
jeeeeez bitter much? It’s crazy how far yall take this game, to the point of thinking someone is a bad person just because they roleplay the bad guy in an online video game. Yikes. I do concede the point about destruction. Seems null does have higher numbers, still, that number is going to be pretty bloated due to capital ships. I’d be curious to see what those numbers were without caps. Anyhoo, yall are soooo wrong about this stuff and tbh the only reason the gankers are so spiteful now-days is because yall have literally had every tool at your disposal, never used any of them, and instead cried to remove us from the game, got us (and suspects) nerfed repeatedly (to the point that there’s so few gankers left you’d have to be a complete idiot to die to one) and NOW have the GALL to blame US for the game dying? You’ve literally had your every wish pandered to for a decade, it was never enough, you kept whining until the game was in shambles and then STILL try to blame it on PvPers? Delusional, Entitled, Selfish and just flat out unintelligent. Real PvP _facepalm_ > **[Occator | hatebreed Severasse | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/104244217/)** > > hatebreed Severasse (Inglorious Fury) lost their Occator in Amarr (Domain). Final Blow by Ripley Von-Stinkle Winkle (Unsteady) flying in a Proteus. Total Value: 215,273,634.49 ISK But wait he was just a defenseless industrialist why didn’t you let him go? You literally do the same thing IE: take whatever content comes your way. IE: it’s all PvP and if I’m a horrible person (I’m not) you’re just as horrible (probably not either). Anyways, good talk, Ima get back to ganking o7 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/227 "2022-10-30T07:30:05Z")
> [@Ninjesus\_Christ](#): > > have the GALL to blame US for the game dying? I don’t blame you for the game dying. Oh no, dear boy, not at _all._ I blame you for the game _never living to begin with._ ---
**Author:** ![Ninjesus\_Christ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ninjesus_christ/32/338848_2.png) [@Ninjesus\_Christ](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ninjesus_Christ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/228 "2022-10-30T07:35:36Z")
Ahh, shoot. I must’ve made too much sense cause now you’re deflecting. Typical though, you’d have to admit you were wrong if you actually engaged any of my points. Jokes on me though really, I should know better than to expect any sort of logic from you. All you’ve ever done is troll and gaslight. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/229 "2022-10-30T07:37:31Z")
How would you know? You’ve been here for half an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Ninjesus\_Christ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ninjesus_christ/32/338848_2.png) [@Ninjesus\_Christ](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ninjesus_Christ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/230 "2022-10-30T07:38:51Z")
Obviously, this isn’t my only character. Honestly, I’ve got you muted on my other accounts. Should probably do the same here since all you post is drivel. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/231 "2022-10-30T07:39:46Z")
Oh yeah, I’m sure your secret hidden main is very scary, Mr. PvPer. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/232 "2022-10-30T08:52:14Z")
I am fascinated to see him argue with someone who ganks, he is desperately looking for anyone who will engage with his strawman emotional bullshite. * * * I think the main reason that Eve is losing so many players is that they made industry too hard, I used to make BS’s, dreads and carriers, the dreads and carriers were major projects in terms of time, but could be done with my own efforts. Now I cannot make them with my own efforts. When I was in NPC nullsec recently I wanted to make myself a Nidhoggur and a Revelation, but I would have to have mining bases in three different areas of space, I had to do moon mining and PI and even then I could not do it by my own efforts. So I did a bit then gave up, and at that point I realised that there was no point in continuing. It did not help that during my main play time nothing much happened. As such it is not so much scarcity that did me in, but the simple act of making it impossible for me to make things that I had set as major objectives. So CCP lost two subs. CCP had to stop the bloat on major alliances, I understand that, but sadly it was a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water., perhaps they should have only applied this to Supers and Titans… 🤔 Anyway, such a shame… ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/233 "2022-10-30T15:55:59Z")
> [@Ninjesus\_Christ](#): > > I say this because most (by a large degree) of the destruction in this game happens in high-sec. If you removed ALL of that destruction the demand for ships (and modules, and ammo, and… everything) will plummet because nobody is losing ships. It’s pretty funny when somebody comes along stating how PVErs know nothing and PvPers are the true masters of EVE knowledge, and then demonstrates they aren’t even aware of readily available statistics. You may want to check the numbers on where destruction is occurring and how much. It appears you’re a bit “out of touch” with them. (You’re also missing Destiny’s satire/sarcasm, although that’s easier to understand. It’s been a while since Destiny has posted anything other than bitter satire and mockery so unless you know their posting history it’s hard to tell what Destiny’s even talking about anymore.) ---
**Author:** ![Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/madamal_yiryi_dethahal/32/375865_2.png) [@Madamal\_Yiryi\_Dethahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Madamal_Yiryi_Dethahal)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/234 "2022-10-30T17:23:39Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > Eve Online, dying since 2003™ agreed eve is “dying” since 2003 (when it was launched) ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/235 "2022-10-30T17:39:21Z")
What if almost everything is a clicky grind with flimsy rewards? On top of it, PLEX is 5 mil now, but all the missions, loots, loyality points and bounties are still the same. So in the end of the day CCP killed PVE. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/236 "2022-10-30T17:41:28Z")
Most countries have a systemic education system that trains people to mindlessly grind for trivial rewards. An MMO that provides the same sort of stimulation should be very successful. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/237 "2022-10-30T18:06:33Z")
That sounds sound! LOL Still, in real life you cant just pick countries as simple as players can pick games. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/238 "2022-10-30T18:12:12Z")
If the education system does its job properly, then you would end up choosing your own country. So there would be no issue. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/239 "2022-10-30T20:06:13Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > (You’re also missing Destiny’s satire/sarcasm, although that’s easier to understand. It’s been a while since Destiny has posted anything other than bitter satire and mockery so unless you know their posting history it’s hard to tell what Destiny’s even talking about anymore I feel like Destiny has gone so far around the satirical circle that she’s just an advocate for instanced PVE at this point. If no one knows it’s sarcasm, it isn’t sarcasm anymore. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-dying/381199/240 "2023-01-28T20:07:03Z")
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