# Is EVE in its death throws?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 21, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878 "2019-01-21T02:51:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/23 "2019-01-21T14:12:35Z")

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i’m waiting, and counting the kills. We’ll do the math next year.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/24 "2019-01-21T14:14:59Z")

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Making money is the main purpose of this game for PA and keeping content that scares away 90% of potential newbies makes no sense at all…better get used to the possibility that they will enforce a game status that keeps those 90% losses lower as it is today…

I know this will be “another” eve…but a better one…

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/25 "2019-01-21T14:16:27Z")

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I’d love to see that, don’t forget to ping me, i’d love to celebrate that with you.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/26 "2019-01-21T14:22:42Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> Making money is the main purpose of this game for PA and keeping content that scares away 90% of potential newbies makes no sense at all…better get used to the possibility that they will enforce a game status that keeps those 90% losses lower as it is today…

90% potential new players from a pool of basically everyone old enough with access to a computer and internet. That’s at least 3 billion people. 10% of that is still huge, so I don’t think it’s much of a problem to weed out those who don’t fit the baseline of the game. Really though, if you try to create a product so broad, that 90% like it, it must be something other than a game. No game will attract 90% of the people.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/27 "2019-01-21T14:23:39Z")

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Don’t you dare questionning his words, you fool.

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**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/28 "2019-01-21T15:04:56Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Because it’s large, is it?

Yes. If it’s over 5 inches, it’s against the EULA.

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**Author:** ![Dirk\_Kajhone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dirk_kajhone/32/419135_2.png) [@Dirk\_Kajhone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dirk_Kajhone)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/29 "2019-01-21T15:35:36Z")

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I’m pretty sure EVE is even closer to final death now than it was the other 3,642 times this topic has been raised in the forums over the last dozen or more years.

Probably by about the number of years that have passed since thread #X was posted.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/30 "2019-01-21T15:46:50Z")

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When EVE dies you can play starcitizen instead.

_ba dum tsh_

🙂

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**Author:** ![Quor\_Dresden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quor_dresden/32/277545_2.png) [@Quor\_Dresden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Quor_Dresden)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/31 "2019-01-21T15:49:20Z")

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So much info to consider on this subject. The amount of games to choose from now compared to when it was released. That is probably the biggest factor for any games player base.

Some what regular updates/ new content vs. those games that just barely keep the servers running.

Testimony from players that started in the beginning have said that player base is more consistent then it used to be. Not sure about overall player base.

With all that in mind Eve seems just fine. New content is always questionable, but still happening, new graphic updates are still being done, etc.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/32 "2019-01-21T16:28:44Z")

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> [@Quor\_Dresden](#):
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> New content is always questionable

CCP asked questions in survey after the last event, asking what was fun and what was not fun. They are still trying to add more things to the events, expanding them. Experimenting have this to it, that sometimes something blows up.

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/33 "2019-01-21T16:33:49Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> 90% potential new players from a pool of basically everyone old enough with access to a computer and internet. That’s at least 3 billion people. 10% of that is still huge, so I don’t think it’s much of a problem to weed out those who don’t fit the baseline of the game. Really though, if you try to create a product so broad, that 90% like it, it must be something other than a game. No game will attract 90% of the people.

You are not really that stupid?  
You haven’t misunderstood it in this way and are joking right?

If yes read again…

i wrote NEWBIES aka players that try the game and leave due to the circumstances…

Please stop devalueing posts while trying to be funny…you are not…

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/34 "2019-01-21T16:38:09Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> CCP asked questions in survey after the last event, asking what was fun and what was not fun. They are still trying to add more things to the events, expanding them. Experimenting have this to it, that sometimes something blows up.

Saying “we ask the players” and than asking CSM aka “we the big alliances only elect OUR members in this so that only OUR voice is heard” is discutable at best,for not use stronger words…

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**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/35 "2019-01-21T16:42:40Z")

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> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> When EVE dies you can play starcitizen instead.
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> _ba dum tsh_
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> 🙂

Star citizen at least does not ignore the reality of todays mmog market for an overall outdated and not market compatible ingame experience…

I’m not saying it is a good game,but it is 2019 and not 2003…

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/36 "2019-01-21T16:49:35Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> but it is 2019 and not 2003…

I’m going to try that 💩 tomorrow, if someone disagrees with me or refuses me something: it’s 2019, you are so 2003.

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**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/37 "2019-01-21T23:22:21Z")

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> [@LargePenis](#):
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> I notice that every day fewer people are posting to the forums

Unrelated really, CCP wants it that way. Less risk of community turmoil spilling over into brand management issues when there’s distribution of messaging streams.

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/38 "2019-01-22T02:59:46Z")

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Which qualifies as a death thro

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/39 "2019-01-22T07:25:20Z")

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> [@LargePenis](#):
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> [@Old\_Pervert](#):
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> OP sounds like nothing more than a giant dick.

You people have exactly zero sense of humor. What happened to this place?

If I had to take a guess, I’d say that since the F2P snowflakes invaded, the drama has gone up and the fun has gone down. I remember a time when a witty post like the one Old Pervert made would have the top likes in this thread.

This forum depresses me.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/40 "2019-01-22T07:55:02Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> What happened to this place?

You can censor everyone.

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Spoonpuncher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_spoonpuncher/32/117062_2.png) [@Jerry\_Spoonpuncher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Spoonpuncher)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/41 "2019-01-22T08:05:07Z")

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The alpha thing was good. I don’t think EVE will die, it might just plateau out to the regulars.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-in-its-death-throws/134878/42 "2019-01-22T09:38:43Z")

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> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#):
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> You are not really that stupid?  
> You haven’t misunderstood it in this way and are joking right?
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> If yes read again…
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> i wrote NEWBIES aka players that try the game and leave due to the circumstances…
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> Please stop devalueing posts while trying to be funny…you are not…

I told you to stop sniffing the glue, did I not? You wrote “potential new players” you dumbo. Also, I doubt you can understand even the remotest form of humor, because for this, you’d need to at least have the wits of a pile of mud.

Let me make it clear for you. Pile of Mud: 1. You: 0.

Let’s be serious for a moment. Why are you so salty about EVE? What happened to you? Did you apply for a job but Hilmar didn’t like you? Were you not qualified? Did they not believe you, that under the crust of your shriveled mind, there is indeed some smarts? Try not to be so bitter, it’s not good for you.

Back to the topic. Again, if you try to please everyone, you will please no one. If CCP had yielded to any whiny and overzealous creep that shows up on the forums, this game would be long gone.

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