# Is EVE Online a fair game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 29, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950 "2018-09-29T07:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/101 "2018-11-23T21:13:30Z")
> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#): > > And it can take years to skill up for some specific activities. Sure, if you come to eve with the ONLY thing you want to do is fly titans. Then that might take a little longer. But even that is not that bad, considering we have skill injectors. I wish people who don’t know how to play eve, would stop spreading all this misinformation. Look. Sure there are some activities that requires a bit more skills than others, which in turn means it takes more time to get into. But telling new players, they will never have fun or be useful because they can’t “catch up” to established players is just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MIssy\_Aggrevation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/missy_aggrevation/32/99384_2.png) [@MIssy\_Aggrevation](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MIssy_Aggrevation)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/102 "2018-11-23T21:14:56Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > And I’m only trying to tell you that, that perception is wrong and should be something we as a collective try to combat. There is no way to actually “win” eve, so there it no need to “catch up”. It’s a sandbox, there is no progression system. I agree. But in other MMOs, how quickly can a player with concerted effort get up to “level cap” and start participating in “end game” content with the big shots? If someone unfamiliar with the game asked how long before they could fly the most powerful ship in the game, you would probably have to tell them “forget it”. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/103 "2018-11-23T21:17:31Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > I wish people who don’t know how to play eve, would stop spreading all this misinformation. I wish people that ignore half the post they’re responding to for the obvious ploy their teeny tiny ego is forcing them into would learn how to forum without tolling. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/104 "2018-11-23T21:18:14Z")
> [@MIssy\_Aggrevation](#): > > I agree. But in other MMOs, how quickly can a player with concerted effort get up to “level cap” and start participating in “end game” content with the big shots? If someone unfamiliar with the game asked how long before they could fly the most powerful ship in the game, you would probably have to tell them “forget it”. The problem is, thinking that you can only be useful if you sit in that titan. There are many other jobs a new character can do in a fleet, other than being that titan pilot. Like I said, there is no progression tree in eve. Just because you can fly a titan, does not mean a frigate is somehow less important. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/105 "2018-11-23T21:20:53Z")
So me trying to explain to you how eve works has something to do with me ego? Ok… If you can’t have a discussion without mud throwing and trolling, then I don’t really have time for that. Fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/106 "2018-11-23T23:13:01Z")
> [@Maekchu](#): > > So me trying to explain to you how eve works has something to do with me ego? You need to learn it before you can teach it. So yeah, you’re having an ego problem. ---
**Author:** ![radkid10](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/radkid10/32/312530_2.png) [@radkid10](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/radkid10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/107 "2018-11-24T01:08:24Z")
Eve online is only fair to the people that do not cry over every problem this game you have to swallow your own tears and sometimes eat a big helping of crap ---
**Author:** ![Pix\_Severus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pix_severus/32/394032_2.png) [@Pix\_Severus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pix_Severus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/108 "2018-11-24T03:14:40Z")
If you think EVE is unfair, go out there and make it unfair for everyone else but you. Or you could come to the forums and complain that the game and other players are the problem, instead of your lack of impetus. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/109 "2019-01-12T13:13:46Z")
Give a toddler a four inch Howitzer to go up against the 23 year old hoodlum with a zipgun. 'Cos fair’s fair, right? ---
**Author:** ![WEWILLSEE\_Whatwillbe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wewillsee_whatwillbe/32/10831_2.png) [@WEWILLSEE\_Whatwillbe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WEWILLSEE_Whatwillbe)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/110 "2019-01-18T15:41:54Z")
EVE is just fine as it is, I am still having unlimited fun flying my damp- nerd T1 frigates on small gang/ fleet roams. A ten group of us caught a 350M cruiser just some time ago!!! ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/111 "2019-01-23T12:17:25Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Well, if they still want to be in the same corp while in the war, there is rather small chance that 5 players will not happen to stumble upon few of the 600 player alliance. How many 600-men alliances in the game? How many of these have 600 real pvp-ers? How many of these actually care about some random 5-men corporation? Are you really sure you are talking about realistic situation? ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/112 "2019-01-23T12:26:54Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > How many 600-men alliances in the game? > How many of these have 600 real pvp-ers? > How many of these actually care about some random 5-men corporation? > > Are you really sure you are talking about realistic situation? Reality is that big bully (big wardeccers) is always taking candy from a child (small, weak corporation). There are many small childs and few big bullies, still. But as I wrote earlier, and what you didnt quoted, child can just leave and dont appear in the sandbox at all, or go somewhere alse and decide to get candy from some other people (other game), where are no such bullies. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/113 "2019-01-23T12:33:38Z")
Minimal levels of welfare still does not deal with following (taken from quoted post): - lifes not pre-determined by daddies wallet - diseases healt when it’s possible, not just when one can afford it … ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/114 "2019-01-23T15:04:09Z")
> [@MIssy\_Aggrevation](#): > > Anyway, this isn’t necessarily my personal feeling, I’m just telling you the perception that is out there that people who start now “won’t ever catch up”. In some ways you will really never catch up. - You will never be first owner of Titan (and first killed in titan for that matter) - You will never be first corporation or first alliance ever created - You will never be first person to deploy outpost in 0.0-sec space (actually you will never be owner of one because they were replaced by citadels) - … That’s the reality of every longstanding system - no matter how good you are if you haven’t joined at the start some things you will never catch. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/115 "2019-01-24T05:38:24Z")
> [@March\_rabbit](#): > > you will never catch. What? you are telling me that i’ll never be a roman emperor? Damn life is unfair! ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/116 "2019-01-30T21:38:57Z")
> [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](#): > > you are telling me that i’ll never be a roman emperor? Roman emperor? Dude, you’ll probably never see what the real world looks like more than a few miles outside your trailer park. At least you get to steal the neighbors WiFi or you’d be making babies with your cousin. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/117 "2019-01-30T22:25:49Z")
You watch way too much Jeremy Kyle. Besides which he’s technically French, in the way that Falkland Islanders are British. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/118 "2019-01-31T03:12:18Z")
Projection? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/119 "2019-01-31T03:18:53Z")
Pretty much, a bit more tropical. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950/120 "2019-01-31T03:31:35Z")
The Falkland Islands are tropical… If you live in Siberia. The place is like Wales, it’s full of sheep, the weather is crap and they hate the neighbours. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-a-fair-game/109950.md?page=7)