# Is EVE Online dead? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 13, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412 "2024-10-13T13:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/42 "2024-10-14T22:30:28Z")
Sigh. I’m not going to argue statistics with someone who doesn’t even know that sentences start with a capital letter. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/43 "2024-10-14T23:46:47Z")
> [@Red\_Kiss](#): > > Is EVE Online dead? Cue the 4 Yorkshiremen… [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/6/1/761960055179688947c3266e3b072eb2f056f6b8.jpeg "The Iconic Four Yorkshiremen | At Last the 1948 Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT1mGoLDRbc) ---
**Author:** ![PainGiva](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/paingiva/32/435829_2.png) [@PainGiva](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PainGiva)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/44 "2024-10-15T00:01:26Z")
It is not **dead** , just alot less ‘people’ play EVE these days. Multi-boxing is a much bigger thing now though, so if you don’t have a job or any responsibilities in your life, you could set up 10-15 alts and do Homefront Operations or Faction Warfare against the other 200 people doing the same. It would certainly help boost player count for CCP’s marketing team. ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/45 "2024-10-21T18:38:43Z")
> [@RGC\_Godfather](#): > > Old money is hard to pass up when you can’t see what new money looks like. They had no issue passing up subscribers to go completely Free/P2W. ---
**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/46 "2024-10-21T18:56:13Z")
> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#): > > 5000 people in it ( which it did in 2003 ), and it is ‘dying’ when there’s 25-30,000 people in it In 2003 it was a brand new game, with no player base, going from 0 to 5000 in months. And thereafter having continuous growth for over 10 years. So no that was not dead. Can argue exactly when Eve died based on a lot of things, I am just going to go fast by online count here, and say that in 2015 where it last spend more than half its time above the current average player count. Eve died. Not that I personally thought it had at this point, and as always when looking at these things I get very sad I didn’t join in time to see what Eve Online really was. Now Eve is so dead, that even after 9 years as a corpse, we are still pulling down on the lifetime average of 36k, with our current 1 month average of 22k. This part always blow my mind, even after so many years, the average is NEARLY TWICE the current people online. Eve really was HUGE. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Rochard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_rochard/32/373864_2.png) [@John\_Rochard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Rochard)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/47 "2024-10-27T03:05:26Z")
Just got to love “dead games”… ![my dead game](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/e/04eb9a20a2a2cf148e37370f9d04e3a340c858b4.jpeg) Fly safe o7 ---
**Author:** ![Analoreke\_Brunette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/analoreke_brunette/32/441333_2.png) [@Analoreke\_Brunette](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Analoreke_Brunette)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/48 "2024-10-27T03:48:09Z")
> [@Red\_Kiss](#): > > During my 50 jumps to Jita to check the market situation, I only saw 2 player ships 2? Highly unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/49 "2024-10-27T04:03:18Z")
I’m sure they were AFK the entire way. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Madullier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/albert_madullier/32/438493_2.png) [@Albert\_Madullier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Albert_Madullier)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/50 "2024-10-27T11:15:04Z")
player number wise no, activity wise pretty much yes, lowsec and null sec are stagnant and not much happening anymore ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/51 "2024-10-27T14:12:00Z")
> [@starbelt\_stacy](#): > > “content” like this event preventing people who pay for their sub just like others from playing the game in their chosen ingame professions… Lol…one minute we have someone claiming they met only 2 people in 50 jumps, the next we have someone claiming their regular ‘profession’ ( most likely watching Netflix while AFK ) is being swarmed by other players. What’s more, it is incredibly naive to imagine that any content in Eve is isolated from generating further opportunity and content. Various forms of layered content are precisely how the Eve ecosystem works. Nobody’s ‘preventing’ anyone from doing anything. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/52 "2024-10-27T14:19:31Z")
> [@Albert\_Madullier](#): > > lowsec and null sec are stagnant and not much happening anymore A quick and random check of killboard, and there were 50 kills in lowsec just beween 13.32 and 13.57…28,000 kills in the past week…3.09 Trillion worth. Apparently 4000 kills a day is ‘not much happening’. And that’s just lowsec…nullsec had 8,000 kills a day, while highsec had 2,500. So, every day there are 14,500 kills…that’s one every 6 seconds…but there’s ‘not much happening’. Lol. ---
**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/53 "2024-10-27T21:53:16Z")
Didn’t you get the memo. The game is dead… Do not believe your lying eyes. It is dead. Because people said so. Even as there are at the moment a little over 27,000 players at the moment… ![download](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/e/63e79b746663206cbea89f00a5f03354951e73dd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/54 "2024-10-27T22:02:06Z")
> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#): > > Even as there are at the moment a little over 27,000 players at the moment… There was 33,000 a little earlier. In the 3 years I’ve been in Eve, some of the highest figures have been within the past year. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/55 "2024-10-27T23:36:18Z")
[EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor](https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility) Now vs then. Hard to argue with twice the numbers back then. ---
**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/56 "2024-10-27T23:51:33Z")
> [@Red\_Kiss](#): > > Is EVE Online dead? Games don die, they go in Gb Limbo. Here is a artlce they talk dead and deading games. Enjoy > **[60 Games Have Already Been Killed, And 2023 Ain’t Over Yet \[Update\]](https://kotaku.com/dead-games-2023-delisted-servers-offline-1850083031)** > > You can add Gran Turismo Sport, Only Up!, and the PS5 exclusive Side Bullet to the graveyard ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/57 "2024-10-28T00:12:40Z")
Having less population doesn’t mean a game is dead. No one is arguing that EVE has lost players from it’s peak. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/58 "2024-10-28T00:21:16Z")
Still reminds me of the old Grateful Dead joke… How many Grateful Dead fans does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they just keep following it around refusing to believe it’s burnt out. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/59 "2024-10-28T00:25:24Z")
I guess Final Fantasy XIV is dead by that logic, or WoW or any other game that lost more than half it’s peak population, despite being industry leaders. (EVE is well in the top 20 by most counts) Simple fact is, the game has an active community and has regular content releases, AND makes profit for CCP. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/60 "2024-10-28T00:28:32Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > AND makes profit for CCP. Not as much as it did and not as much as it could. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/61 "2024-10-28T00:29:15Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > Not as much as it did and not as much as it could. Enough to spin off several games at the same time though! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412.md?page=4)