# Is EVE Online dead?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 13, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412 "2024-10-13T13:03:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Laubrani](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/laubrani/32/430644_2.png) [@Laubrani](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Laubrani)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/82 "2024-10-28T23:21:50Z")

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> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> That’s an absurd representation of the data

You should read the rest of the post too.

> [@Gloria\_Exercitus](#):
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> Comparing with Call Of Duty is silly.

Not if talking to people who just counts kills.

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/83 "2024-10-28T23:34:30Z")

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> [@Albert\_Madullier](#):
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> player number wise no, activity wise pretty much yes

You don make any sense. If its no for playerwise then it cant be yes for activty. WHO does activties? Players!

> [@Albert\_Madullier](#):
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> lowsec and null sec are stagnant and not much happening anymore

You should try to find the Undock button. It is on the right above Board Corvette.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/84 "2024-10-29T01:05:05Z")

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> [@Laubrani](#):
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> You should read the rest of the post too.

Nah…I’d read enough nonsense for one day.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/85 "2024-10-29T01:31:27Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> The player base was more intelligent, ask CCP if their bragging about that now like they used to. Grid Foo 🤣 Better trained and far more open to knowing they would face combat. I’m glad you enjoy the game at least.

Perhaps you come from a time when people had to actually understand ship fittings and their use, rather than these days just being handed doctrine ships with no ‘need’ to understand why they are fitted as they are. The whole reason I created Gloria was to experiment on my own rather than endlessly flying doctrine Eagles, etc. And I’ve gained more fittings knowledge and skill in 2 months of solo suspect hunting than in the entire prior 3 years of fleet activity.

Add to that the fact that by the time one has got to 1000 fleet kills, each extra kill is a smaller and smaller portion of the total. My 64 puny kills on my own somehow feel like ‘more’ than when I’ve been in some fleet killing a 20bn station or gotten 60 kills in one hour in fleet action against an enemy. I think corps sucking in noobs in relatively simple doctrine ships has led to a dearth of real skills…and that is what you have perceived.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/86 "2024-10-29T01:38:05Z")

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The funny part to me is I was more dangerous as a solo player then in a fleet? Just goes to show we picked on harder targets when I was in a corp.

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/87 "2024-10-30T16:41:55Z")

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Being an old deadhead. I greatly resemble that remark.

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/88 "2024-11-04T16:58:21Z")

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With respect. If you are as good as you are claiming. Then shouldn’t you be the one in your corp teaching? Demonstrating how to fight? Tricks that others may not know about or even realize can be done.

As a relatively new player myself. I know that there are things that can be and can not be done. But there is a vast amount of knowledge that I have not come across yet.

If you are as good as all that. Then you should be willing to instruct or at least offer to your Corp to make them better as a fleet in a fight. But this is just an observation and a suggestion.

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/89 "2024-11-04T17:32:01Z")

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> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#):
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> If you are as good as all that

He not good. Just bragging like all the other forum trolls.

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/90 "2024-11-04T18:34:44Z")

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I find those that are as good as they say are already showing/teaching new(ish) players how to.

Poster’s like the one that I responded to rarely are as good as they think they are. But maybe he/she is as good as all that. Which makes me wonder if you are in corp, guild, clan, or whatever and understand the game and how to do. As this poster has at least alluded to has not shown how to be a better player in a PVP fleet fight in his corp.

Maybe it’s time for this poster to either put up or shut up. Because bragging how much better than your corp mates. To me makes me think that the poster is salty because he found out that things have changed and not everyone is at the level of play he is at, if he is even at that level of play in the first place.

So yes my question stands, why does he not teach/demonstrate or at least offer to do the same in his corp? In the end don’t we want all of our corps to be just that good?

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/91 "2024-11-04T18:53:44Z")

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> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#):
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> So yes my question stands, why does he not teach/demonstrate or at least offer to do the same in his corp?

My answer still stands too: he’s not good, he’s just a braggart troll like half this forum members.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/92 "2024-11-04T19:11:19Z")

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> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#):
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> My answer still stands too: he’s not good, he’s just a braggart troll like half this forum members.

FYI

It had been a known fact that MB ThePhotographer flew with Bob

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/93 "2024-11-04T19:27:40Z")

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> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> It had been a known fact that MB ThePhotographer flew with Bob

And I flew with Bill.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/94 "2024-11-04T19:30:51Z")

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> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#):
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> You should try to find the Undock button. It is on the right above Board Corvette.

There’s no evidence that any of you…ahem… ‘month old noobs’…have ever undocked, even in a corvette.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/95 "2024-11-04T19:33:45Z")

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> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#):
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> And I flew with Bill.

I had never flown with Bill

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/96 "2024-11-04T19:39:15Z")

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> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> I had never flown with Bill

That’s the point.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/97 "2024-11-04T19:50:31Z")

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> [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](#):
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> That’s the point.

The point is that MB ThePhotographer back in the day could make even Chuck Norris have to change nappies.

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/98 "2024-11-04T19:51:52Z")

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> [@Chad\_Frostpacker](#):
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> The point is that MB ThePhotographer back in the day could make even Chuck Norris have to change nappies

I guess it Depends now 🤣

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**Author:** ![Aallin\_Gicquet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aallin_gicquet/32/510703_2.png) [@Aallin\_Gicquet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aallin_Gicquet)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/99 "2024-11-04T21:10:11Z")

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Probably, but this not back in the day. This is now. And now he is crying that other pilots are not up to his standards. If he is still as good as he says he is, again why is he not, at the very least, offering to his corp to teach them. Instead he is here complaining. Making people wonder if he is still as good as he claims.

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**Author:** ![Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cleo_of_petra/32/438534_2.png) [@Cleo\_of\_Petra](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cleo_of_Petra)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/100 "2024-11-04T21:14:49Z")

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> [@Aallin\_Gicquet](#):
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> people wonder if he is still as good

I dont wonder, I know he no good, he just pretend and brag like half the trolls in forum.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-dead/464412/101 "2024-11-04T22:42:25Z")

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