# Is Eve Online too toxic? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 3, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709 "2023-10-03T20:08:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/192 "2023-10-13T11:32:14Z")
Trust is something you don’t find or get. You have to give it, like an investment, like a seed. The decision is entirely yours, if you think you need trust, start right now. ---
**Author:** ![stefnia\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stefnia_freir/32/390048_2.png) [@stefnia\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/stefnia_Freir)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/193 "2023-10-13T11:33:02Z")
You should sell trust permits. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/194 "2023-10-13T11:35:38Z")
For several years I had been searching for that with a pilot who we all know by the name of Aiko. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/195 "2023-10-13T11:50:42Z")
I understood what you meant. I was pointing out that you can not _`know`_ whether you can trust me or not thus it is pointless to even go “theatrical” about it as in the end no matter what I say or do can be just a ruse, especially so in EVE where people perform years long acts of such as a form of roleplay and for the benefit at the end of the journey. All you can do just as any other EVE player and anyone else in general is assess the risk, make your choice and if you decide to trust someone always keep in mind they might betray you in the end, may it be in EVE or in real-life in general. On my main and CEO and currently existing alts for example I am always trustworthy when I fly together with someone, but for example if I decided to, on a new alt I would have no issue joining a corp or fleet and awox them because that is also a legit part of the game and can be fun too. But that would be an alt specifically for that purpose just as if I decided if I do ganking then I would do it on a specific alt for that purpose just as I have different alts for different purposes as you yourself are aware already. Thus all I can tell is I am not betraying anyone on my main nor currently existing alts but obviously you can not know if what I say is true or not. As this is EVE the rules allow betrayal an such, which consequently means if someone keeps their word it is of completely based on their decision alone making such decisions invaluable. But in the end it is you who have to decide because there is no guarantee for anything in EVE, which is part of the whole experience. So in long this is what I’ve expressed in short in that post. You can trust me but I can not prove it so it is your choice whether you take the risk or not and nothing I can do to prove my intentions are true. Speaking of which you can send me 50 bil ISK and trust my word that I will send it back. 😉 😈 🙃 😇 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/196 "2023-10-13T11:58:40Z")
This is OOC the duel is for 5 billion only. For me to release 50 I will have to ship some stuff to Jita ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/197 "2023-10-13T12:03:18Z")
If you decide to take on that offer you are not in a hurry so don’t rush selling stuff just to do it, whenever it suits you. Just make sure you drop me an EVEmail once the transaction is done as I barely ever sign in to my CEO so will not be aware for a very long time otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/198 "2023-10-13T12:07:31Z")
You might really upset Aiko ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/199 "2023-10-13T12:09:19Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > might really upset Aiko 🤭 😊 :dealwithitparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/200 "2023-10-13T12:15:03Z")
Think of how toxic those demands she says though! one billion a month to live in highsec ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/201 "2023-10-13T12:16:12Z")
Ever wondered what she spends all that ISK on that you send her? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/202 "2023-10-13T12:17:51Z")
Perhaps to replace all those barges she pops of those new Capsuleers that are ganked? There is a ship replacement form and I trust that it is being put to good use ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/203 "2023-10-13T12:22:12Z")
Yes that seems like a very likely scenario. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/204 "2023-10-13T12:30:13Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > If you’re not thinking of leaving at least once a week then you’re not playing Eve properly. In my view the game is designed to have people right on the edge of ‘stuff this’ vs ‘isn’t this wonderful’ and the biggest ‘win’ in Eve is that one is still in it. You do not like the logical conclusions i draw? Well that’s not MY problem,it’s YOUR expectation of how the game has to be that is flawed… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/205 "2023-10-13T12:33:00Z")
This sounds so true as a real Eve online Capsuleer should welcome whatever other Capsuleers throw at them:) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/206 "2023-10-13T14:02:29Z")
> [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > ok let me ask this. who is it that supplies the materials for all those fancy modules that you pvpers so much love and enjoy?.. who is it that mines ore minerals for the materials needed to manufacture ammo… weapon modules etc.? and yet you have the nerve to pick on industrialists that provide a massive part of the economy… That’s sort of like arms dealers complaining that there are wars. The entire and sole reason for existence of Eve industrialists is pew pew. There’s no reason to make those modules _other_ than an economic cycle driven by ships being destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/207 "2023-10-13T14:43:27Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > That’s sort of like arms dealers complaining that there are wars. Yah it is! INDUSTRALISTS ARE ARMS DEALERS!! I don’t think the average builder of hybrid ammo, ECMs, etc. realize how they are funding both sides in a struggle between the gankers and anti gankers. They sell guns to ANYONE good or bad. Anti ganker or Ganker industralists are the merchants of death. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/208 "2023-10-13T15:06:41Z")
Safety. actually has 3 orca/barge mining wings…I know cause i have seen them, one them exclusively mines moons owned by others. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/209 "2023-10-13T15:44:54Z")
> [@Max\_Deveron](#): > > one them exclusively mines moons owned by others. They are enforcing the Highsec law upon illegal moon ore owners. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/210 "2023-10-13T16:18:23Z")
Lexi is the person who believes if you don’t mine ore you cannot be an industrialist. There is no reasoning with that. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/211 "2023-10-13T19:28:29Z")
Correct, after seeing both sides of the battle for resources in highsec I discovered that the ganker just wishes for peace and harmony to prevent mines from becoming too greedy. Gankers are not as toxic as miners can become. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=11)