# Is Eve Online too toxic? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 3, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709 "2023-10-03T20:08:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Zedva\_Operati](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zedva_operati/32/388608_2.png) [@Zedva\_Operati](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zedva_Operati)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/212 "2023-10-14T04:19:22Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Ever wondered what she spends all that ISK on that you send her? 🤔 I wonder how many ~~catalysts~~ mining barges can you get with 1 bil ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/213 "2023-10-14T20:37:22Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Correct, after seeing both sides of the battle for resources in highsec I discovered that the ganker just wishes for peace and harmony to prevent mines from becoming too greedy. > > Gankers are not as toxic as miners can become. So true. As you see in here, the most toxic are not the pirates. It is a revelation once you understand this. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/214 "2023-10-14T21:28:17Z")
Yeah-nah… _we_ don’t see the logic behind that and _we_ have the right to mine when and where without being blocked by some environmentalist ganker who portends to care about peace and harmony with the ice or ore of New Eden. ---
**Author:** ![Fran\_De\_Saint-Moulin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fran_de_saint-moulin/32/390300_2.png) [@Fran\_De\_Saint-Moulin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fran_De_Saint-Moulin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/215 "2023-10-14T21:32:32Z")
It’s so toxic I have to play with a HAZMAT suit on. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/216 "2023-10-15T07:49:21Z")
When your mind accepts the truth that there are no miners and no gankers. Merely capsuleers. It will be blown. The dream of New Eden is that you can be one and the same, all at once. It is only now, in these times of shallower pilots that they seek to separate out what should be intrinsically known. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/217 "2023-10-15T07:56:50Z")
> **Not true, miners can't also be gankers at the exact same time otherwise they would end up ganking themselves.** > > ![miners-cant-also-be-gankers](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/f/0bff72e7e984bc300d6aac4bd609aa6b665fe41e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/218 "2023-10-15T08:32:10Z")
> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#): > > Not true, miners can’t also be gankers at the exact same time otherwise they would end up ganking themselves. Its all true. Don’t worry my son. Spend some time reflecting on these thoughts in the void. Travel through all space has to offer. Tickle the triangle boys in Pochpoch. Dive deep with wormholers. You will come to understand this in the fullness of time. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/219 "2023-10-15T09:56:09Z")
Yesterday there was a new player in the system I live in, (new to the system not a new player). He was doing a Crimson Harvest site I warped to so left him to it, but I did send him a message asking him if he would turn the wrecks blue so I could salvage them, and promptly got the convo rejected, so yeah players can and do make the EVE experience bad. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/220 "2023-10-15T10:09:06Z")
You seem a bit too fragile to live on this side of the gate if a rejected conversation merits this much to you. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/221 "2023-10-15T10:39:21Z")
It doesn’t, i’m just making a point that there’s a lot of players completely unwilling to interact with others or help to keep the dscan clear of empty wrecks, and before you mention it yes I could remove them… Does his or your attitude help especially with new pilots? You go a long way to prove the OP’s concern of toxicity in the game and forums. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/222 "2023-10-15T11:07:35Z")
so there are always only 1 active miner or why would you kill yourself if youre a ganker ? oO > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > turn the wrecks blue so I could salvage them, you can salvage white wrecks doesnt matter its not an offensive or suspect action ! you just cant LOOT the wrecks ! > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > keep the dscan clear of empty wrecks why is this useful ? oO maybe you need a better filter option for your d-scan to see the more important things ? ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/223 "2023-10-15T11:24:59Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > It doesn’t, i’m just making a point that there’s a lot of players completely unwilling to interact with others or help to keep the dscan clear of empty wrecks, and before you mention it yes I could remove them… > > Does his or your attitude help especially with new pilots? > > You go a long way to prove the OP’s concern of toxicity in the game and forums. To succeed as a capsuleer, you need a thick skin and full guns. It’s clear you have neither. He most likely thought you were going to trick him and murder him. So he erred on the side of caution, as a good capsuleer should. And yes, its clear even my mild words have clearly hurt you. Again, life on this side of the gate doesn’t seem like its for you. > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > why is this useful ? oO > maybe you need a better filter option for your d-scan to see the more important things ? He most likely was attempting to murder the pilot through guile and was caught out, hence why he’s so mad. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/224 "2023-10-15T15:02:02Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > why is this useful ? oO > maybe you need a better filter option for your d-scan to see the more important things ? Don’t worry, I see the important things 🙂 > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > And yes, its clear even my mild words have clearly hurt you. > > Again, life on this side of the gate doesn’t seem like its for you. Considering I’ve been here for years I guess you’re wrong lol. Plus I see wrecks as isk waiting to be collected, including the loot and I would rather not just go and steal them. Co-operation works best for myself. > [@Eldstokkr](#): > > He most likely thought you were going to trick him and murder him. So he erred on the side of caution, as a good capsuleer should. I don’t pvp. I did sit on a gate camp once though down in NS with a corp I was In but it wasn’t my cup of tea despite getting on a few kill mails. So do you see and understand yet? You can reply and discuss things or help players without insults… ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/225 "2023-10-15T19:13:25Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > and promptly got the convo rejected Well to be honest, with a name like Spacetramp, do you blame him? ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/e/f/1efee04cf3f1d9dde03490569b27fca451a29086.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/226 "2023-10-15T20:12:35Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Considering I’ve been here for years I guess you’re wrong lol. And those years have clearly taken a toll on you. If someone’s mere rejection of your words can cause you to spiral like this. Again, it seems like life on this side of the gate is too hard for you. > [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > I don’t pvp. I did sit on a gate camp once though down in NS with a corp I was In but it wasn’t my cup of tea despite getting on a few kill mails. > > So do you see and understand yet? > > You can reply and discuss things or help players without insults… What insult the truth? ---
**Author:** ![Sorshae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sorshae/32/390481_2.png) [@Sorshae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sorshae)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/227 "2023-10-15T22:25:32Z")
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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/229 "2023-10-16T14:08:41Z")
Carebear meltdown. Quite normal. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/230 "2023-10-16T15:57:35Z")
Toxic Carebear ---
**Author:** ![Az\_Makyr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/az_makyr/32/397757_2.png) [@Az\_Makyr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Az_Makyr)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/231 "2023-10-20T14:20:08Z")
I would have rejected your convo purely based on asking me to abandon wrecks so you could salvage. There is no reason to do this as salvaging any wreck is allowed by concord. You probably came off as a scammer. ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/232 "2023-10-20T15:26:09Z")
How does it look like it could be a scam though? Turning them blue simply lets someone loot without any consequences as well as salvage, that’s all. I’ve done it in the past including null when I have been busy and had to go, it’s no hardship. I think the biggest problem is players suffering from paranoia, not every player is out to try to kill you 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=12)