# Is Eve Online too toxic?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 3, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709 "2023-10-03T20:08:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Your\_Awesum\_Brutha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/your_awesum_brutha/32/387010_2.png) [@Your\_Awesum\_Brutha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Your_Awesum_Brutha)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/233 "2023-10-20T15:41:08Z")

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> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#):
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> I don’t pvp.

That’s the issue.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/234 "2023-10-20T17:22:00Z")

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Since you can’t tractor in yellow wrecks with an MTU, abandoning all wrecks in a site is basically the only way to be nice to some new player who just want to salvage. Of course he can loot the wrecks too then, but if you don’t want to have the loot anyway, why not give a noob some income? If it was up to me, all wrecks would be auto-abandoned once the “owner” warps off the grid anyway.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/235 "2023-10-20T18:12:37Z")

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I hate how paranoia has hurt the human spirit in EVE.

Some people are so overly paranoid of scammers, gankers, and everything in between. They let these people define how they play this game and it kills creativity as it sets into leadership’s heads.

My advice? Don’t let the scum of EVE determine what you want to do. It’s a mental war and don’t let those types of people win. You can be social and outgoing and still stay vigilant vs scammers/gankers on a day-to-day basis.

I have firsthand experiences with people so paranoid and scared of death (in the pure PVE world) it makes me sick tbh. 🤮

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/236 "2023-10-20T20:27:16Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> I hate how paranoia has hurt the human spirit in EVE

It is not paranoia if it is true

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/237 "2023-10-20T20:50:55Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> Some people are so overly paranoid of scammers

It’s generally a result of not understanding the game mechanics that could affect them (simply because in all their years of playing they could not be bothered to “invest” 20 minutes of their time to look things up or ask around) so instead they’ll just stick to boogieman stories and act accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/238 "2023-10-20T22:31:34Z")

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I didn’t claim if something was true or false.

It’s the paranoia that the ganker boogyman (borrowed from Aisha’s comment above) will get you despite system X being quiet for months.

It’s the paranoia that when someone mails you or opens a convo that a person defaults to a scammer.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/239 "2023-10-20T22:44:34Z")

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Ah, but the boogeyman does exist

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/5/c/85c4463051c36d84b39c464062bfa38d0691a5ac.png)

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**Author:** ![Azazod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazod/32/336190_2.png) [@Azazod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazod)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/240 "2023-10-20T23:50:52Z")

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The game isn’t nearly toxic enough.

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**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/241 "2023-10-21T18:35:43Z")

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> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#):
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> I think the biggest problem is players suffering from paranoia, not every player is out to try to kill you 🙂

This misconception is what leads to people being killed.

Always assume they are trying to kill you.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/242 "2023-10-21T19:25:03Z")

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![Aiko-in-yellow-high-high-cat](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/4/2/442de574604f3b2b06d1d92dbf29c55ab4e93947.jpeg)  
This is why I keep gifting the Yellow Space Suit every christmas so that the boogeyman isn’t so scary!

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/243 "2023-10-22T00:28:08Z")

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Missing 4th option: Not toxic enough.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/244 "2023-10-22T02:44:04Z")

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> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#):
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> I think the biggest problem is players suffering from paranoia, not every player is out to try to kill you 🙂

The question is not, are you paranoid? It is, Are you paranoid enough?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/245 "2023-10-22T11:05:48Z")

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Yellow symbolizes decay, physical rot, moral rot, suffering, illness (both physical and mental), anxiety, and caution whilst also being the color of color of wisdom, knowledge, sickness, insecurity, obsession, idealization, naivety, cowardice and deceit.

It is also **Frosty’s** favourite color.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/246 "2023-10-22T11:15:46Z")

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Notice how he never asked me what my favourite color is.

Completely selfish in everything he does.

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/247 "2023-10-22T11:26:29Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Notice how he never asked me what my favourite color is.

Catalyst-Green? 😛

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/248 "2023-10-22T12:17:46Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> never asked me what my favourite color is

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/c/a/0ca5bddbb73063c2ac4ec7b1f37f179fb40a1587.jpeg "Monty Python - Bridge of Death") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D7hFHfLEyk)

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/249 "2023-10-23T22:36:26Z")

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Hey now What have you got agaisnt BEES?

/…_besides just how toxic can **Aiko** be if she is always seen as my **honey bee?** _

![aiko-honey-bee](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/f/5/0f57766cd6658ea268b66324fca942b593f43349.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/250 "2023-10-23T23:18:57Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> /…_besides just how toxic can **Aiko** be if she is always seen as my **honey bee?** _

No. She’s the Queen bee and you’re just some hapless drone taking up space and resources. Soon to be pushed out of the colony by the worker bees when winter is about to strike.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/251 "2023-10-23T23:21:00Z")

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Worker bees are not toxic and would die if they would ever sting their queen bee!

Perhaps I am the flower in this garden?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/252 "2023-10-23T23:42:53Z")

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Could this get any creepier?

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