# Is Eve Online too toxic?

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 3, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709 "2023-10-03T20:08:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/516 "2024-04-01T14:53:10Z")

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Only three tries at making your post legible?

You’re getting better.

Mr Epeen 🕶

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/517 "2024-04-09T03:39:01Z")

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Speaking of toxicity,  
I have a question for you @Aiko_Danuja

Why is offering the suggestion “calm down miner” to an overly emotional and irate miner, and offering them a virtual cup of digital camomile tea (which is the same as offering a virtual hug, just less in-your-personal-spacey) considered “toxic” and “inflammatory?”

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/518 "2024-04-09T03:42:50Z")

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It’s considered toxic and inflammatory because it is what they need to do, and they don’t want things to get better, they just want to cry and whine and complain endlessly. So then they gaslight us, pretending like we are the griefers.

> **[Control anger before it controls you](https://www.apa.org/topics/anger/control)**
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> Anger is a normal, healthy response to a threat and may be used for a constructive purpose. When anger becomes uncontrollable or is unexpressed, it may lead to destructive thoughts or actions. Learn how to control it.

> Finally, you can calm down inside. This means not just controlling your outward behavior, but also controlling your internal responses, taking steps to lower your heart rate, calm yourself down, and let the feelings subside.

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/519 "2024-04-09T13:48:35Z")

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Because that phrase is usually used in a dismissive manner. It’s the space version of “Okay boomer”.

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**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/520 "2024-04-09T13:55:39Z")

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> [@Done25](#):
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> Because that phrase is usually used in a dismissive manner

It sounds like a term of endearment to me.  
Deep down inside I’m certain that gankers _love_ miners unconditionally and they just want to help in a selfless manner and out of brotherly love for their fellow players.

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**Author:** ![Xucca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xucca/32/373499_2.png) [@Xucca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xucca)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/521 "2024-04-09T16:40:03Z")

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I…

Concede.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/522 "2024-04-09T19:11:30Z")

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> [@Done25](#):
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> Because that phrase is usually used in a dismissive manner.

Can you prove that it is being used in a dismissive manner, or are you projecting how you use that term upon others?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/523 "2024-04-09T19:28:13Z")

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> [@Yuzima](#):
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> brotherly love

![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/9/3/893be1a3444a39c196703d666794ef7cd55f7402.jpeg)

🤔

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**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/524 "2024-04-09T19:31:44Z")

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@Zaera_Keena I apologize for offending you, Zaera.

Let me rephrase that.

It sounds like a term of endearment to me.  
Deep down inside I’m certain that gankers love miners unconditionally and they just want to help in a selfless manner and out of **brotherly and sisterly** love for their fellow players.

@Aiko_Danuja 🩷

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/525 "2024-04-09T20:20:23Z")

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Depends, do you want to to take me out on a date first? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/526 "2024-04-09T20:32:25Z")

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She can’t unless you want to break her out of a federal penitentiary as she is serving multiple life sentances without possibility of parole. You can however send her ISK to buy herself a coffee.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/527 "2024-04-09T22:19:26Z")

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Here’s a thought.

If you are having a mental breakdown, because someone suggested you calm down, then YOU are the one with a problem, and it’s not their fault you are so immature.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/528 "2024-04-09T23:48:48Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> you are so immature

After careful study of **25** , **Dr Zaera** has come to the conclusion that **25** is suffering from what is know as **Gen Z** syndrome with symptoms of heightened sensitivity to issues related to mental health, social justice, gender equality, environmental sustainability with a typical trigger being **Calm down Miner**

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/529 "2024-04-09T23:55:58Z")

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What does that have to do with the argument?

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/530 "2024-04-09T23:58:19Z")

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He is trying to say …he likes you?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/531 "2024-04-09T23:59:32Z")

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It tells me that he has no idea what he’s talking about and he projects his own ill will upon others.

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/532 "2024-04-10T00:39:19Z")

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Everything! Don’t you love me anymore? You never call. Your son misses you! D:

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**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/533 "2024-04-10T00:39:54Z")

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I feel like **you** might be the one projecting here.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/534 "2024-04-10T00:57:14Z")

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> [@Done25](#):
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> Don’t you love me anymore?

> [@Done25](#):
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> Your son misses you!

Wierdo

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/535 "2024-04-10T01:07:06Z")

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What gave you the impression that I loved you in the first place?

I’m a 12 year old girl, serving multiple consecutive lifetime sentences in a federal penitentiary, for inflicting severe emotional trauma upon helpless people via non-consensual pvp.

The fact that you would even suggest that we have a child together is, very very wrong and disturbing.

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