# Is Eve Online too toxic? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 3, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709 "2023-10-03T20:08:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexi_jaziran_naskingar/32/467073_2.png) [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexi_jaziran_Naskingar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/131 "2023-10-07T20:05:13Z")
yeah tell that to the idiot that started rubbish with me? … ---
**Author:** ![Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexi_jaziran_naskingar/32/467073_2.png) [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexi_jaziran_Naskingar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/132 "2023-10-07T20:06:49Z")
i dont need silly rubbish from a plonker that made comments on something i said hours ago. its over an done with. but nahh idiots don’t get that through their heads do they xD, i dont need rubbish like when ive just got back from my job. as in a job in the real world not a virtual one. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/133 "2023-10-07T20:09:28Z")
Please don’t make personal attacks! ---
**Author:** ![Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexi_jaziran_naskingar/32/467073_2.png) [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexi_jaziran_Naskingar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/134 "2023-10-07T20:09:57Z")
again he personally attacked me first… so tell that to the idiot which posted that rubbish… ---
**Author:** ![Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lexi_jaziran_naskingar/32/467073_2.png) [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lexi_jaziran_Naskingar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/135 "2023-10-07T20:14:52Z")
if numpty had not started rubbish with me. i wouldn’t have even bothered saying anything… anyway im going back to that place we call the real world. to cook my home made meal. not junk microwave food. but actual home cooked food. ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/136 "2023-10-08T03:23:13Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > It would be impossible to purge them from New Eden, as death is merely an inconvenience. Not impossible. If more people took up arms, it would decrease it overall. But people won’t. All they will do is cry, until the false gods “save” them and thus ruin the agency and choice our universe offers us. > [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > and your a prime example of being a toxic idiot. and no unlike you. you thicko i dont go getting excitement by blowing people up unlike your tiny brain. i actually use mine and make good use of it. Toxic? Because I disagree and accept the reality of our universe? If you could use your brain, why can’t you avoid being killed or rally other people to your cause instead of levying poor insults? The answer is obvious. > [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > its called being productive not a lazy twit that thinks ganking is fine just because ccp doesnt do anything about it does not make griefing people ok… The Prophet can already tell you have never run any kind of scale, large or small, of a military operation. You do not know the work and effort it takes to coordinate even a small gang of capsuleers to a purpose and keep them disciplined enough to do it. Grief? What grief the truth? These capsuleers have goods the pirates want. Pirates, by definition, like to pirate. Ergo, they will attempt to take said goods. It isn’t the false god’s job to save you. Save yourself. Fit up, fleet up and fly out. Or don’t. But to expect people not to mock your cowardice is ridiculous. > [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > yeah tell that to the idiot that started rubbish with me? … Sirrah, if you cannot handle even gentle words of discourse, I suggest you head on out the New Eden gate. Find the valley known as Stardew. Farm. Mine. Fall in love. Take up a life. It is obvious New Eden is not for you. > [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > i dont need rubbish like when ive just got back from my job. as in a job in the real world not a virtual one. Your problems are not our problems. If you cannot manage your time effectively, that is on you. > [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > anyway im going back to that place we call the real world. to cook my home made meal. not junk microwave food. > > but actual home cooked food. Oh. You should have just told us you suffered from clone batch madness. It would have saved time. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Gryffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michael_gryffith/32/389674_2.png) [@Michael\_Gryffith](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michael_Gryffith)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/137 "2023-10-08T14:13:56Z")
No it’s just business. ---
**Author:** ![WhamyKablamy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whamykablamy/32/386793_2.png) [@WhamyKablamy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhamyKablamy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/138 "2023-10-08T19:36:56Z")
Look, I hate to be that dude, but you are outright wrong with your assumptions about ganking and whether or not it’s inherently toxic, etc, etc. Go and look at the actual kills on zkillboard. It’s not just a ganker epeen paradise as you seem to think it is, there is a ton of information in there. You can see where ganks are happening, and if you actually do you research you can see that the vast majority of them happen in 0.5 and 0.6 systems. A simple search for like 3 different miner ships showed that there were almost no Orcas killed outside of 0.5 and 0.6, zero procurers killed outside lowsec and almost no ventures killed in highsec from non-NPCs in the last 4-5 pages. That should tell you something. You can also use the in game map, let alone third party resources, to see where there have been a lot of player ship losses lately. Avoid those areas if you’re that worried. It is entirely possible to use the information from zkillboard to tell you what sort of fits gankers might bring and plan accordingly, and also how to calculate whether or not you’re going to be a good target to kill. If all gankers need to bring to drop you is a couple of 25m ships and you’re carrying 500m of goods, you’re a juicy target. If you knew as much about ganking as you claim you do, and how often it happens, all of what I just said wouldn’t be news to you. But furthermore, what you’re saying just doesn’t add up to reality for me. Let me explain… I had a heart attack in 2019 because of a genetic disposition to them. I couldn’t PvP for years after, because for some reason it completely reset my adrenaline response, so getting into any sort of PvP almost made me black out. In any game. So for the last 4 years I’ve been exclusively PvE’ing on my characters and at no point have I felt like I can’t play Eve. That included doing runs through to Jita to sell things, which is one of the main gank spots. So I really think you have your perspective completely skewed on this. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/139 "2023-10-08T20:06:51Z")
> [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > its called being productive not a lazy twit that thinks ganking is fine just because ccp doesnt do anything about it does not make griefing people ok… Miner, calm down! This is not how you talk to your superiors ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/140 "2023-10-08T20:21:48Z")
> [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > microwave food. Respect your elders! ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/141 "2023-10-09T00:46:50Z")
You can’t shoot the gankers until they shoot you. War decs are easily avoidable and could easily be stopped due to war HQ mechanic. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/142 "2023-10-09T01:14:23Z")
> [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > not junk microwave food. > > but actual home cooked food. I like deep fried miner. Delicious with a touch of salt. As I both gank and mine, the karmic balance is maintained. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/143 "2023-10-09T01:22:44Z")
> [@Lexi\_jaziran\_Naskingar](#): > > its called being productive not a lazy twit that thinks ganking is fine Ganking is fine, and I’m not lazy! ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/144 "2023-10-09T01:42:53Z")
> [@Phaade](#): > > You can’t shoot the gankers until they shoot you. Of course you can. Shoot them first. The Prophet already let the masses know how to stop ganking at least two years ago. There is a failproof tactic. People are simply lazy. ---
**Author:** ![Phaade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phaade/32/390475_2.png) [@Phaade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Phaade)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/145 "2023-10-09T02:02:09Z")
Gank the gankers? ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/146 "2023-10-09T03:21:53Z")
Indeed. That can be a fun way. There is a foolproof way however. All it requires is friends or more clones. If one did this tactic, there is literally nothing the gankers could do to you for a certain window. However, again, most capsuleers are lazy and unskilled. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/147 "2023-10-09T07:04:31Z")
The toxicity of certain people such as Aiko wrongly accusing me of things I had not said was evidence of just how toxic these forums are. Still it has its own charm, I found it rather amusing to be attacked by these people who never worked out that I was virtually impossible to upset by such verbal bullshite, but boy did they try. It is fun to come here an look every so often, and see them still desperately garnering negative attention, wonderful stufff… ---
**Author:** ![Chupi\_fantastika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chupi_fantastika/32/453335_2.png) [@Chupi\_fantastika](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chupi_fantastika)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/148 "2023-10-09T07:47:12Z")
Yes its have so many toxic players, more than the average MMO I think with tons of way for make harrasament and even bullying outsite of the game, in real life… ---
**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/149 "2023-10-09T09:50:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > wrongly accusing me of things I had not said No neighbor, we all know what you said and why you don’t frequent here anymore. > [@Chupi\_fantastika](#): > > Yes its have so many toxic players, more than the average MMO I think with tons of way for make harrasament and even bullying outsite of the game, in real life… Oh? You got any proof of these fantastical claims? ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709/150 "2023-10-09T10:36:01Z")
I’d say that one of the most toxic things you can do in EVE is tell newbies to mine, to then invite them to your corp so they can slave away for you and you reap the rewards of their labour with your “buy back program” while keeping them clueless. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-online-too-toxic/422709.md?page=8)