# Is EVE Revenant just more nano kitey garbage? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 23, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570 "2024-10-23T11:42:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/1 "2024-10-23T11:42:15Z")
For a game that is renown for its destructive battles, it seems really disconnected to constantly buff risk adverse gameplay. ![Screen Shot 2024-10-23 at 9.21.01 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/f/3/ff336eca520afdc4ef1bd40e5124e5c787dfe692.png) Perhaps there is a misunderstanding, is it not the design goal of factional warfare gates to encourage smaller hull specific conflict zones? Why is there a need for more ‘fast paced’ anything ? For a long while there it was a single stabber with oversize prop mod in every ESS, sure that is a lot of pace but very much lacked skirmish. ![Screen Shot 2024-10-23 at 9.21.21 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/7/f/47fd44a912b2249cebe9ad9d923e1a91bf47d0fd.png) Ok so it is a siphon unit? What is the point of fiddling with the skyhooks so much, first they were 24/7 robbable with ramping, now they have some weird random vulnerability window with a 50% unrobbable bonus room. Will there be the same mess of temperate planets getting merc’d until people complain about that too? ![Screen Shot 2024-10-23 at 9.21.35 pm](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/c/01c0de2bd76c6325a884d65deb2e3c85b78422d4.png) So an oversize stealth bomber with a fancy bomb ( watch people complain when its needs bomb deployment 5 ) launcher that ignores shield/armour. Yeah that is not OP at all, totally doesn’t crap all over everything not based of a Gallente hull. Resistance to webs? Why not keep with the bonus to AB/MWD ? The last thing the game needs is ships to be resistant to stasis webbification crashing back to gate over and over, it was bad enough trying to get a curse and a hugin into an ESS to blow up the stabber botters, now its going to be almost mandatory, as its not like CCP is going to fix the ESS, or even better, just remove the mechanic entirely right ? Ganruntee if these things end up with nullification it’ll be the bad old days of uncatchable T3C’s with massive buffer tanks flying around everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/2 "2024-10-23T11:58:07Z")
From the people who said that the (then) new T3 destroyers would not massively destroy the pvp environment. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/3 "2024-10-23T11:59:47Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > that ignores shield/armour The video in the blog says they ignore resistances, but apply normally to shields, then armor etc. > **[Revenant in Focus: Wealth & Destruction | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/revenant-in-focus-wealth-and-destruction)** > > Get richer and deadlier with new ships and resources. > [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Ganruntee if these things end up with nullification it’ll be the bad old days of uncatchable T3C’s with massive buffer tanks flying around everywhere. CCP does indeed have a tendency to mess up new game elements when added, so I understand some gloom and dooming. We’ll probably need more details before we can make a better estimate of Revenant’s impact on the game, though. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/4 "2024-10-23T12:44:09Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > The video in the blog says they ignore resistances, but apply normally to shields, then armor etc. Like a reverse polarised weapon. Gross. ---
**Author:** ![Rooker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rooker/32/455723_2.png) [@Rooker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rooker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/5 "2024-10-23T13:38:12Z")
Well as long as we’re bringing back really bad ideas, let’s resurrect the Burn Eden Raven too ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/6 "2024-10-23T14:17:58Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Like a reverse polarised weapon. Gross. Probably even worse. Polarized weapons are self-limiting - to use them, you have to accept the negative consequences on your own ship (risk vs. reward). Scarab pods apply all the negative consequences to the target, multiplying the effect of any imbalance in the implementation (reward \* reward). It’s good to see CCP experimenting with new things, but as usual CCP seems to have little grasp of how their ideas may actually play out in the game or how to balance them. I guess we’ll see if they’ve learned any lessons from the past, soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Smarter\_ThanU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/smarter_thanu/32/436079_2.png) [@Smarter\_ThanU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Smarter_ThanU)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/7 "2024-10-23T14:44:44Z")
It’s a skillpoint sinkhole. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/8 "2024-10-23T21:17:43Z")
They sound interesting. We need something to shake up the current metas… ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/9 "2024-10-23T21:54:15Z")
Is this the raven with dual MWD that you fly at the same speed as the torpedo’s that are launched at the same target? Or something else? ---
**Author:** ![Rooker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rooker/32/455723_2.png) [@Rooker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rooker)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/10 "2024-10-24T13:12:01Z")
Sensor damps and more sensor damps. Whole fleets of sensor damping torp ravens setting the sky on fire. For a few months, everybody hated Burn Eden more than they hated BoB or Goons. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/11 "2024-10-24T13:27:59Z")
Nothing wrong with training bomb deployment to 5. It’s a short skill. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/12 "2024-10-24T13:36:54Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > Like a reverse polarised weapon. Gross. It’s a buff for polarized ship fits! When you fight one of these new ships you can use the superior fire rate of polarized weapons without the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-eve-revenant-just-more-nano-kitey-garbage/465570/13 "2025-01-22T13:37:48Z")
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