# Is everyone lawyer now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 26, 2019, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446 "2019-09-26T08:54:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/21 "2019-09-26T23:20:11Z")
Absolutely not. I am not paid by Wikimedia, and I have no obligation to improve the quality of their website. I am however more than willing to edit it for free, adding false information in order to discredit them and encourage people to use another source. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/22 "2019-09-27T00:18:48Z")
Some people here like to claim things without checking them first. eg someone here literally affirmed “correlation does imply causation” while quoting an article that explicitly states the opposite. That’s the reason why you always need to check the sources. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/23 "2019-09-28T08:57:00Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > Note that you have not read us our miranda rights so you cannot use our posts in a court of law. We don’t have miranda rights. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/24 "2019-09-28T09:26:15Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > We don’t have miranda rights. In that case, I confess. It was me who wrecked the ship. :~( but I am sorry and want a discount on my sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/25 "2019-09-28T12:22:21Z")
No plea bargaining allowed. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/26 "2019-09-28T12:27:13Z")
Woah, asking people to prove their points is now looked down as something bad. Impressing. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/27 "2019-09-28T17:03:11Z")
Apparently the concept of the burden of proof is unknown to some, this normally happens in General Discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/28 "2019-09-28T17:10:23Z")
Opinions are not facts hence why they don’t feel the need to provide evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/29 "2019-09-28T17:20:26Z")
Except when they claim to not be opinions. When someone says “correlation does imply causation” it’s not an opinion. It’s stupidity. Same when someone says “PCU is going down, and the recent patches did not make it go up, therefore the recent patches are the only responsible for making it go down”. Claiming “Something stupid is correct because it’s an opinion” is just wrong. People can have stupid opinion. People can make mistakes, can ignore parts of the problem, can ignore they can make mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/30 "2019-09-28T18:03:35Z")
If only you’d heed your own advice. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/31 "2019-09-28T18:05:50Z")
> [@Aedaxus](#): > > In that case, I confess. It was me who wrecked the ship. :~( but I am sorry and want a discount on my sentence. Say sorry and don’t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Aedaxus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aedaxus/32/393915_2.png) [@Aedaxus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aedaxus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/32 "2019-09-28T18:36:57Z")
I say sorry. And promise I will not do it again. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/33 "2019-09-28T18:43:49Z")
Which I often do. I try to check the sources when people claim things. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/34 "2019-09-28T18:52:45Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I try to check the sources when people claim things. He means when you claim things. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/35 "2019-09-30T17:34:21Z")
> **[Bullshit | Bullshit asymmetry principle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit#Bullshit_asymmetry_principle)** > > Publicly formulated the first time in January 2013 by Alberto Brandolini, an Italian programmer, the bullshit asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law) states that: ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/36 "2019-10-02T16:44:06Z")
> [@Harabec\_Ojutai](#): > > When anyone can type a search into Google, everyone has an “informed” opinion. This might blow your mind, but most people actually don’t do that. Using a search engine is an actual skill bosses look out for in their employees. I wish I was kidding, but seriously … I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/37 "2019-10-02T19:02:34Z")
I probably _would_ believe you were kidding if I hadn’t read some of the stories on [r/talesfromtechsupport](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/). For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about, have a look at some of the sub’s “Greatest Hits”: - [“THE SERVER IS DOWN YOU NEED TO FIX THIS NOW”](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/636p68/the_server_is_down_you_need_to_fix_this_now/) - [You deleted all my files!](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/65cam1/you_deleted_all_my_files/) - [“I need you to fix Google Bing immediately!”](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/5htbtu/i_need_you_to_fix_google_bing_immediately/) - [“I’m not a computer person” - but allow me to be as unhelpful and condescending as possible while I demand you fix my problem](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/5lpavs/im_not_a_computer_person_but_allow_me_to_be_as/) - [OK, now the password is ‘D35p41r’](https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/4j0fbs/ok_now_the_password_is_d35p41r/) Honestly, the stories on that sub will make anyone even remotely competent at using a computer feel like a tabletop game player (which I am) reading the tale of Luke, Plagueson of Nurgle (which I did). I just…_how_. _How_ can people be so inept at using a computer?! Is it a function of their shitty personalities or something? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/38 "2019-10-02T19:22:25Z")
Because as long as you don’t work with clients and UI you learn generic things that you believe always apply. They don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Valiran\_Teleros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/valiran_teleros/32/504787_2.png) [@Valiran\_Teleros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Valiran_Teleros)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/39 "2019-10-02T19:52:02Z")
Really? Would you be willing to elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446/40 "2019-10-02T20:32:15Z")
People have very different vision of the same thing. Even when you develop something, colleagues may not understand what you did and why you did it. So for people who barely use a computer tool for their job, sometimes a very old they can’t install anything on … Yes, some clients are self-entitled bitches. But if you can’t accept that there are people who know nothing about computers, and have the right to, and you have no right to judge them, it likely means you lack experience in the topic. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-everyone-lawyer-now/192446.md?page=3)