# Is “forcing” players to login during holiday season a good thing? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 8, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595 "2018-12-08T07:05:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/124 "2018-12-17T09:12:07Z")
> [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](#): > > And it will amount to 1.5m sp Actually you can chain inject the boosters (at least no statement otherwise), so we are talking about a potential for ~35M SP (if you extract biology, and my calculation is right) on a used char (skill farm chars will sell the boosters). This associated with the skill injector/extractor sales … ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/125 "2018-12-17T09:45:25Z")
35m at a price of 55b isk + however much the augmentors end up costing. (for 80m+ characters, which generally are the only people who might be able to afford it) every person i’ve talked too who could afford that kind of isk outlay all at once have also universally said that it isn’t worth the price since there are so many better things they could spend that isk on than some SP that they on’t really need. so your right. in theory someone could get up to 35m sp out of it, an there may be a couple of people who will do it just because they can. but those are all fringe cases, so theorizing about a “worst case scenario” doesn’t serve any purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/126 "2018-12-17T17:53:29Z")
Horray!! Just got back from my family vacation and there are only 12 possible login days left. FU CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/127 "2018-12-17T18:15:31Z")
I log in 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kuba\_Ganowski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kuba_ganowski/32/87636_2.png) [@Kuba\_Ganowski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kuba_Ganowski)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/128 "2018-12-17T18:35:46Z")
I log out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Karlemgne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karlemgne/32/408302_2.png) [@Karlemgne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karlemgne)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/129 "2018-12-17T18:42:36Z")
I get it, I really do, but in the grand scheme of things none of the ‘Christmas presents’ you get for logging in are that wonderful—arguably the ‘best’ one requires a high skill point character to get the most value, the additional expense of the cost of the skill injectors, AND expires on January 7th. Given that it really isn’t a huge loss if you do bot sign in all 13 days. ---
**Author:** ![Light\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/light_raider/32/31639_2.png) [@Light\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Light_Raider)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/130 "2018-12-17T18:49:36Z")
@CCP_Falcon Why can’t you guys extend the deadline until the 2nd of January? I bet that many capsuleers will go spend some time way from home and will miss one or two days of the required 13 logins. ---
**Author:** ![Karlemgne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karlemgne/32/408302_2.png) [@Karlemgne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karlemgne)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/131 "2018-12-17T18:59:01Z")
Yes, some people will do this; that said, as a character of over 100 million skill points I am not super rich. I have about 15 billion or so in liquid isk and another 60 or so tied up in assets across three accounts. To make that work for me I will need to buy roughly 70 skill injectors, at least two extractors, and (assuming I pool the boosters from my 3 omega accounts) roughly 20 boosters. Thats roughly going on Jita prices _today_, 65+ billion isk to get your theoretical 35 million skill points. So basically, I would have to use all of my wealth and then liquidate all of my assets, all by January 7th, to get those skill points. At this point in my eve career those skill points are relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things, and absolutely not worth the cost or effort. Basically only a very small subset of people will be able to exploit this for all 35 million sp, and the ones who can are most likely rich enough in game that they could afford to do this _without_ the Christmas boosters. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/132 "2018-12-18T17:16:05Z")
> [@Light\_Raider](#): > > @CCP_Falcon Why can’t you guys extend the deadline until the 2nd of January? I bet that many capsuleers will go spend some time way from home and will miss one or two days of the required 13 logins. Exactly, having a 17 day event where you need to login 13 of those days over the holidays is just wrong. Extending it over New Years would mean people who visit families still can finish the event. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/133 "2018-12-18T18:03:03Z")
By the time I get to the 18th account… sigh… i’ve had enough Eve for the day. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/134 "2018-12-18T18:14:04Z")
> [@C13250](#): > > start playing EVE again for the first time in over 2 years then I noticed I wont reach the rewards I’m interested in Is gone for two years, didn’t pay anything, wants presents, don’t get all presents, left crying. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Light\_Raider](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/light_raider/32/31639_2.png) [@Light\_Raider](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Light_Raider)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/135 "2018-12-19T20:59:10Z")
I don’t know if you agree with me or if you was only being sarcastic, but I can give you my example: I’m login in since the start of the event, and will be doing so until day 22, that’s time when I’m going way until the 28’s, so the last rewards are lost to me, though luck for me and I’m sure many others that don’t live in a cave. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/136 "2018-12-19T21:47:55Z")
No I am agreeing with you. To me it is another poorly thought through idea. They could have easily made it all of December, allowing most regular customers to have a life and finish the event. Requiring 13 out of 17 days over the holidays is just being hard nosed. Ebenezer would be proud! ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_Evil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lady_evil/32/155383_2.png) [@Lady\_Evil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lady_Evil)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/137 "2018-12-20T08:14:06Z")
Many games I have played have offered xmas events, the more you log on, the more you have the chance to get. I do not think that offering ‘gifts’ are anything other than that. Will these ‘gifts’ afford me any advantage? No. Should I be bothered if I get them or not? No. My family always was more offended by, “sorry I can’t (fill in the blank) cause Mommy is at war” than they ever were with, “excuse me a moment while I log in and claim (fill in the blank”). I personally took the OP to incite conversation about the lure of logging in over the holiday vs. ignoring games for family obligations but it seems many others took it a multitude of different ways. An entertaining read for the most part though. ---
**Author:** ![Ikshuki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikshuki/32/344204_2.png) [@Ikshuki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikshuki)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/138 "2018-12-25T08:16:11Z")
forcing? they really showed up to your location and forced you to login? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/139 "2018-12-26T15:43:29Z")
Don’t be stupid, obviously it was a poor choice of words but you get the point. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/140 "2018-12-30T16:14:31Z")
It’s worded correctly from the perspective of addicts. Which shows how nuts the industry is. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-forcing-players-to-login-during-holiday-season-a-good-thing/125595/141 "2019-03-30T16:14:41Z")
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