# Is highsec ganking still a thing? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 9, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334 "2025-08-09T18:30:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Carl\_Stonewall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/carl_stonewall/32/470110_2.png) [@Carl\_Stonewall](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Carl_Stonewall)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/82 "2025-08-19T18:22:00Z")
_“You have no killboard activity._ _There is no evidence you play the game. There is no evidence you have friends, or that they play the game. There is no reason to think you have any valid opinion. Let us know if you can provide proof of actually playing EvE Online.”_ You got me. I’ve never tried the game, in fact i’ve shorted CCP stock and have to ruin the game by preventing you from suiciding your catalyst into mining ships in highsec, a integral part of EVE that holds the game afloat really. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/83 "2025-08-19T18:22:25Z")
> [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > You got me. I’ve never tried the game I’m aware, all you do is complain in the forums. Play the game or move on. ---
**Author:** ![Meona\_Sherie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meona_sherie/32/469285_2.png) [@Meona\_Sherie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meona_Sherie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/84 "2025-08-19T18:35:06Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Play the game or move on. Happy Birthday, @Aiko_Danuja🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spacetramp\_Drago](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spacetramp_drago/32/480922_2.png) [@Spacetramp\_Drago](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spacetramp_Drago)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/85 "2025-08-19T19:50:41Z")
That crap again? Is that your stock answer, can’t think of anything else? Killboards mean absolutely nothing, and prove absolutely nothing. Apart from some thinking they can tell how people play by looking at it, feel free to look at mine (again) this is my main and then tell me, or try to tell me I haven’t been playing for what, 13 years now? People, stop quoting it, I have it blocked… ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/86 "2025-08-19T19:58:12Z")
> [@Spacetramp\_Drago](#): > > Is that your stock answer, can’t think of anything else? She is an old and broken record, evidenced by this as well: > [@800,000 EHP Orca](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/800-000-ehp-orca/492338/91): > > @Uriel_the_Flame Well, Aiko was defeated by shields again. Ran into her twice yesterday and the big bad PvPer of High Sec tucked tail and ran: [[Brave Sir Robin] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8) I don’t know… If it’s so easy to blow up any ship in the game that tanking just doesn’t matter, then I’d be dead by now. I don’t know why people insist on laying down and dying. It seems like everyone in this game has decided to just give up. Anyway, I’m done. There’s nothing much left to do in this gam… As you can see she is getting old, outdated and old fashioned. She doesn’t have what it takes to take down a target she several times openly considered a `clown`, `dull`, `boring` and whatnot, yet she just ran away from him like a scared little rat. 😊 🤔 Doesn’t have much value whatever she says unless she admits her faults. You can just smile at her desperate attempt at begging for attention and move on. 😉 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/87 "2025-08-20T02:24:52Z")
> [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > Havent signed up for it That means you aren’t playing? So why try to change a game lots of other people enjoy, if you aren’t even part of it. I mean, I don’t come to your party and telling you that your music sucks and the food is terrible, right? IF you play the game, you should have known that EVE is a full PvP game from the moment you undock and everyone out there is, one way or another, someone who might try to trap, trick or kill you. If you cannot understant that simple thing, really go play something else. The game was _created_ so players can build up stuff that other players can destroy again. That is why pretty much everything a player creates in the game, can be destroyed one way or another. > [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > Having zones for people that want to relax and enjoy other parts of the game than what you like makes sense to me Those zones _do exist_ as I already told you. You simply refuse to listen. Go to some remote HighSec corner and you can play the game almost totally on your own or with some friends and literally no one will care for months. You won’t even see gankers there. Make sure to pick ships that are no good PvP targets and everything is fine. And no, you DON’T need to stay a T1 miner. Using a very tanky Orca and some well-tanked Skiffs is totally fine. > [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > Yea you cant do anything. Just repeat your vicimization myth. Learning how not to get ganked is so easy, everyone can do it in a day. And you don’t need to be a “PvP miner” (whatever that is) to do so. You just don’t have to be lazy and entitled. And you have absolutely no idea how gankers operate and why they do what they do. That makes it easy to judge someting out of sheer ignorance. > [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > just asking if the issue with HS ganking has been fixed There _ **is** _ no issue. _ **And never has been** _. It was always easy not to get ganked and the gankers always only get those who are stupid, lazy, entitled or make a couple mistakes in a row. The first step to get better is to _respect_ the effort and professionality of those who have beaten you, trying to understand what they did and how they did it and then avoiding to be on the short end of the stick next time they might try. > [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > but obviously if you like a game, like I do with EVE, you’d want to change it for the better. You do not change EVE to the better with nerfing or removing ganking. You make it _worse_. You make it more safe, more convenient for those who don’t want to learn, more attractive for lazy folks who just want to grind and not caring at all for the gameplay around them. EVE _already_ offers _all_ the tools, zones and mechanics you need to be pretty much non-affected by ganking. Just learn how. Every monkey can do that. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/88 "2025-08-20T07:02:33Z")
> [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > just asking if the issue with HS ganking has been fixed If people bothered by ganking would do more than just ragequit and passively watch from the sideline and occasionally shouting back in when checking things again then it could easily been done. CPP shown many times they follow the money so if it was hurting their finances to keep ganking possible or at least not nerfing it to obscurity then they would do it. The delayed local fiasco was a prime example of this. If enough people shout together and willing to take action then they are even willing to remove a new feature a day or few later without hesitation. `Because bottom line is king.` All people like you should do is reach out to each other, band together and talk to support why you quit, remind them occasionally, en masse. Also talk on gaming forums and maybe even reach out to gaming press about how you feel CCP is passively permitting your in-game assets, especially when you bought them by selling PLEX that you bought for real-life money being taken away. Using the gankers as a proxy to do so they can deny any responsibility. CCP also shown they don’t like negative press so that is also useful to pursue. If instead of just Karen complaining on the forums such people would actually try and put effort into it they could achieve what they want. CCP can and willing to do whatever, they destroy playstyles without the slightest hesitation if that is in support of their new plans. All they need is a reason to and ganking will be gone, either diminishing to almost zero or outright being made impossible. Give them a reason to. 🤔 😉 :psyccp: 😊 ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/89 "2025-08-20T12:36:54Z")
> [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > Right now (i assume) the game is just suiciding your ship to kill someone else It becomes tedious to read these threads from people who don’t even play the game, but know what is wrong with it, and how to fix it. Maybe you should play the high sec game for a couple months to get a feel for what you are talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/90 "2025-08-20T13:18:00Z")
> [@Carl\_Stonewall](#): > > Im not trying to say you should change the game neccessarily, just asking if the issue with HS ganking has been fixed, because to me it is effectively vets ruining the game for good people that dont have time to be super serious about the game, as well as new guys. But be that as it may, I dont have to play the game neccessarily - but obviously if you like a game, like I do with EVE, you’d want to change it for the better. Which is the aim here. That is such a load of BS. You completely ignored the stats I gave elsewhere, that only 0.34% of all the ship destruction across all of EVE every week is down to ganking. You completely ignored that less than 5% of all the destruction even in just highsec is down to ganking, and that _most of it is down to NPCs_. Way more miners, especially noobs, lose their ships to belt rats, incursions, and other NPCs than ever do to gankers. I recall when I mined in Azerakish ( a 0.6 system ) in my Venture, I had quite tough rats show up every 15 minutes….yet I’d see gankers there maybe once a day. Several years back one of my noob alpha alts warped right into 8 rats in a belt in Oipo ( a 0.8 system ) and lost their Venture…the only time I’ve ever mentioned that loss. I don’t recall hurling my toys out of the pram and rage quitting. I lost a battlecruiser to a ‘puny’ Enyo…twice. Did I rage quit ? No…I learned how to fit for dealing with kiting, and now I’d make mince of that Enyo. That is how you play EVE…your losses are there to teach you. ---
**Author:** ![E-2C\_Hawkeye](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/e-2c_hawkeye/32/404833_2.png) [@E-2C\_Hawkeye](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/E-2C_Hawkeye)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/91 "2025-08-26T16:01:51Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > If you want to join the antiganking REVOLUTION, send me a convo ingame and together we can fight back against the griefers and bullies! This is just to funny. Justin DUDE you are the bully and griefer. I hope no one falls for your [Safety.net](http://Safety.net) BS ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/92 "2025-08-26T17:37:19Z")
> [@Tarax](#): > > Cloak-Align-Decloak-Warp trick There’s no such trick. At least not on a DST. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/93 "2025-08-31T16:51:11Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > There’s no such trick. At least not on a DST. The MWD cloak trick does exist and is usable even in a DST. I assume that’s what they meant. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/94 "2025-08-31T18:39:41Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > The MWD cloak trick does exist and is usable even in a DST. No arguments there. I was being annoying, I knew what they meant. But also it’s a rather specific thing, and to leave out MWD is confusing, because there is an _aling-cloak-get to max speed-decloak trick_ as well. And that one specifically should NOT use an MWD or AB. Just the latter is not effective on a DST. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/95 "2025-08-31T18:48:53Z")
Never heard of such a trick without MWD (or AB), unless it’s about Endurances and Blackops ships which can get to warp speed while cloaked. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/96 "2025-08-31T18:50:48Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > about Endurances and Blackops ships That is what I meant. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/97 "2025-09-09T22:37:23Z")
“Bullsh\*t Wonderland” Hull alarms ring, are you listening? At the gate, lazers are glistening A beautiful sight W_e’re happy tonight in a Maurader of Fright_, Flying through Aiko’s bullsht wonderland Gone away is the blah blah bird, He ran out of conditioner He sings a love song, somethings gone wrong, While we stroll along in a Maurader, Flying around in an Aikio bullsht wonderland. In Uedama we can build an Astrahaus, We’ll pretend that he is Parson Brown He’ll say: Are you a ganker? We’ll say: No man But in 15 minutes we can build a stack, Later on, we’ll conspire As we dream by the Maurader, The plans that we’ve made flying an Maurader in an Aikio bullsht wonderland Big horn middle In Halamai we can build a MTU, We’ll pretend that he is, Bob, He’ll say: Are you ready? We’ll say: Yea man, we can do the job when we’re in town. Later on, we’ll conspire beside the Mauraders. The plans that we’ve made flying Marauders through Aiko’s bullsht wonderland, in an Aiko’s, bullsh\*\*t wonder…land! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/98 "2025-09-09T23:14:34Z")
That was very nice Dryson. Thank you for your contribution. [https://www.james315.space/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Aiko-Wonderland.mp3](https://www.james315.space/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Aiko-Wonderland.mp3) I will add your song to the contest: [Eve Themed AI Music CONTEST](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/eve-themed-ai-music-contest/495744) 🎶 🎄 🎵 ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-highsec-ganking-still-a-thing/495334/99 "2025-09-12T13:10:43Z")
You’re about 50 years late for a good EVE song…. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/2/ca2691b4667add7b79daeff45f7f85a2da07bd1f.jpeg "Future Legend/Diamond Dogs | David Bowie + Lyrics") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zndiq-Ch5oo) ---
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