# Is Hisec ganking good for the game? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 9, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997 "2021-09-09T01:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2036 "2021-10-14T07:27:31Z")
Not so much that at least my side is honest about it. As long as it is properly balanced then it is good for the game, at this point that balance is almost there so the benefits outweigh the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2037 "2021-10-14T08:23:38Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > @Kellie_McCalamitie you are being active in this thread for someone who has scammed and bullied so many new players out of the game Aren’t I ? What are you gonna do about it ? _nothing_ You are impotent to stop me, bwaaaaahahaha ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2038 "2021-10-14T08:27:17Z")
I can only go with what my empathic energy and spider senses tell me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2039 "2021-10-14T08:37:48Z")
> [@Hans\_Devin](#): > > I suppose this is off topic but…Is Hisec ganking good for the game? Very good. ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2040 "2021-10-14T08:38:48Z")
Play Eve with the assumption one will die at some point in time. Take it on the chin and move on. If you’re not having fun then you’re not playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2041 "2021-10-14T08:48:16Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I can only go with what my empathic energy and spider senses tell me Good. Run with that. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2042 "2021-10-14T09:36:13Z")
> [@Hans\_Devin](#): > > I suppose this is off topic but…Is Hisec ganking good for the game? Why are you trying to derail this thread? Yes, Hisec ganking is good for the game, in fact the game **is** Hisec ganking and it’s actually called Aiko Online But what about Losec ganking, is that good for the game? And Nullsec? Why forget Nullsec? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2043 "2021-10-14T21:24:04Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Why are you trying to derail this thread? > > Yes, Hisec ganking is good for the game, in fact the game **is** Hisec ganking and it’s actually called > Aiko Online > > But what about Losec ganking, is that good for the game? And Nullsec? Why forget Nullsec? Low/Null/WH is PvP. Ganking is only done in high sec. I think the problem stems that people don’t understand this. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2044 "2021-10-14T22:00:51Z")
Herp derp definition herp derp gang killing herp derp other games Derp ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2045 "2021-10-14T22:57:48Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > But what about Losec ganking, is that good for the game? And Nullsec? Why forget Nullsec? The interesting aspect of that question for me, is if we extend it to the ships that are ganked in highsec. What about lowsec killing of freighters, is that good for the game? And nullsec? Why forget the killing of freighters in nullsec? More freighters die outside highsec, than die inside highsec (about 60% of freighter kills are outside highsec). Why would killing a procurer in lowsec be ok, but then somehow not be ok in highsec? Exact same ship. Exact same level of defence. The only difference is that the pilot of the procurer can be more lazy and/or incompetent most of the time in highsec; and somehow that makes killing it bad? Kill all the things, everywhere. It’s all fine. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2046 "2021-10-15T00:10:03Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Why forget the killing of freighters in nullsec? Indeed why? > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > More freighters die outside highsec, than die inside highsec (about 60% of freighter kills are outside highsec). Interesting. Why forget the ganking in Lowsec? > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Why would killing a procurer in lowsec be ok, but then somehow not be ok in highsec? > > Exact same ship. Exact same level of defence. I agree. It’s as if HiSec should somehow be off limits. Why? Because it’s High-Security? haha! > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > The only difference is that the pilot of the procurer can be more lazy and/or incompetent most of the time in highsec; and somehow that makes killing it bad? Naah, if it’s a combat ship it’s fair game imo > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Kill all the things, everywhere. It’s all fine. Yea, except I wouldn’t stoop as low as attacking mining ships unless the pilot is in a corporation that is at war with my corporation. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2047 "2021-10-15T00:28:22Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Interesting. Why forget the ganking in Lowsec? Ganking doesn’t happen in low sec. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > I agree. It’s as if HiSec should somehow be off limits. Why? Because it’s High-Security? haha! High security isn’t total security. A bank can still get robbed hm? Wouldn’t you define them as high security? > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Naah, if it’s a combat ship it’s fair game imo Everything can be a combat ship. > [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Yea, except I wouldn’t stoop as low as attacking mining ships unless the pilot is in a corporation that is at war with my corporation. Again, its your perspective that’s the problem, not the game. ---
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2048 "2021-10-15T03:34:51Z")
Honestly Eve is a really big universe, it’s not really that difficult to find a home base with very little traffic (Jumps per 24h) and say 12+ mining belts… [https://evemaps.dotlan.net/](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/) is an excellent resource for newbies trying to figure out low traffic areas. People need to be a little more resilient when playing this game. ---
**Author:** ![Nico\_Christened](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_christened/32/439994_2.png) [@Nico\_Christened](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Christened)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2049 "2021-10-15T05:53:26Z")
Great points. I’d like to add the cost for high sec aggression used to be more than what is today. This tendency to find some poor sap with a poorly fit mining ship and blowing him to bits while he’s trying to learn the game is toxic to the core–and anything CCP can do to curtail that behavior is overdue. Freighter kills and nest egg hauler pops, those are not the same thing as what I described above. Those gameplay mechanics should be protected. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2050 "2021-10-15T05:56:40Z")
> [@Nico\_Christened](#): > > and anything CCP can do to curtail that behavior is overdue. Why would they want to curtail that when it makes them money? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2051 "2021-10-15T06:19:11Z")
I dont understand why theres supposedly a moral difference attacking a mining ship as opposed to any other ship. Can anyone explain this? Preferrably without hyperbole pls. ---
**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2052 "2021-10-15T06:19:43Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I dont understand why theres supposedly a moral difference attacking a mining ship as opposed to any other ship. Because in real life blah blah blah blah blah. Edit: Oops, I didn’t see your edit. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2053 "2021-10-15T06:44:12Z")
> [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](#): > > Naah, if it’s a combat ship it’s fair game imo If it’s a **ship** it’s fair game. ---
**Author:** ![Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kellie_mccalamitie/32/285447_2.png) [@Kellie\_McCalamitie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kellie_McCalamitie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2054 "2021-10-15T06:51:07Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > If it’s a **ship** it’s fair game. Not to me. I can’t feel any satisfaction blowing up an unarmed mining vessel but that’s just me. If I need target practice I’ll do it on a rock with mining lazers… how boring, lol. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997/2055 "2021-10-15T06:56:48Z")
I fly noncombat ships a lot of the time. Mostly outside high sec. That means if I screw up I lose my ship just as if I were flying a combat ship. And if I play well I can deny the other players an easy kill. _“I fly a noncombat ship, therefore I should not need to be aware of my surroundings or care for my own safety”_ is a foreign concept for me. I get that some people get lazy from being protected by the threat of CONCORD, but **you** should be the one to keep your ship safe. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=100) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-hisec-ganking-good-for-the-game/326997.md?page=102)